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alkytrio666 12-14-2007 09:20 AM

but dudes zombie puts more like gore and sex and shit in the remake plus the old one is sooo old but rob zombie rules and makes good horror with sex and gore and we see michael as a kid and shit its sweet!

Angra 12-14-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 654659)
but dudes zombie puts more like gore and sex and shit in the remake plus the old one is sooo old but rob zombie rules and makes good horror with sex and gore and we see michael as a kid and shit its sweet!



Young man, step away from the computer and let Alky back on..

jenna26 12-14-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 654651)

I can totally sympathize with the friends who talk through movies or don't even bother to watch them at home... It drives me CRAZY, especially if it's a movie that I feel passionately about.

I saw the second Matrix movie with two groups of friends: With the first group of friends, we took a couple of hours to discuss the philosophy of the movie (ignoring ITS weaknesses) and what we hoped to see in the third.

The SECOND group of friends - I TRIED to get them to talk, but they were just like, "Heh. Fighting scenes."

It was a sad, sobering experience. :(

I know that the second Matrix movie isn't everyone's favorite, but there were a lot of themes in there that were worth discussion...

anyway...

I don't get that. I mean I understand if movies aren't a person's "thing". If its just something they don't enjoy as much as I do, or they just don't have the appreciation for film that I do. I get that. But why even bother to watch a film if you aren't going to REALLY watch it?

But I suppose it comes down to this, for most people, movies are JUST entertainment. They don't take anything away from it (and I admit I like mindless entertainment as much as the next person). They don't see any meaning in film, because they aren't looking for that. When they decide to see a film, they aren't looking to analyze it, or take anything from it, they want a way to pass the time, or have a bit of fun then immediately forget about it. But having a movie you haven't seen on as "background noise" seems a tad silly to me. Just turn a radio on. ;)

Oh and I have to say.....its drives me a little crazy when I say I dislike a film and they automatically assume that I don't "get" it. It happens when I mention I am not a fan of Mulholland Dr. I don't know how many times I have been told "well, its just because you didn't UNDERSTAND it". No, its because I think it is a muddled mess and it did absolutely nothing for me. I am a Lynch fan. I just don't like that film. I don't need people talking down to me about it. ;) Its all about your own interpretation of a film, and what you think it is trying to accomplish, and if it accomplished that for YOU.

jenna26 12-14-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 654659)
but dudes zombie puts more like gore and sex and shit in the remake plus the old one is sooo old but rob zombie rules and makes good horror with sex and gore and we see michael as a kid and shit its sweet!

*snicker* Well, that sir, is a powerful argument and COMPLETELY changed my opinion of the film.




:D :p

Yet another remake that apparently was just a bad, BAD idea from the get go. Kind of like another one I can name, but won't, because I have bitched about it ad nauseam....*coughblackchristmascough*

Angra 12-14-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)
I don't get that. I mean I understand if movies aren't a person's "thing". If its just something they don't enjoy as much as I do, or they just don't have the appreciation for film that I do. I get that. But why even bother to watch a film if you aren't going to REALLY watch it?

But I suppose it comes down to this, for most people, movies are JUST entertainment. They don't take anything away from it (and I admit I like mindless entertainment as much as the next person). They don't see any meaning in film, because they aren't looking for that. When they decide to see a film, they aren't looking to analyze it, or take anything from it, they want a way to pass the time, or have a bit of fun then immediately forget about it.

That's me right there. :o


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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)

Oh and I have to say.....its drives me a little crazy when I say I dislike a film and they automatically assume that I don't "get" it. It happens when I mention I am not a fan of Mulholland Dr. I don't know how many times I have been told "well, its just because you didn't UNDERSTAND it". No, its because I think it is a muddled mess and it did absolutely nothing for me. I am a Lynch fan. I just don't like that film. I don't need people talking down to me about it. ;) Its all about your own interpretation of a film, and what you think it is trying to accomplish, and if it accomplished that for YOU.

I didn't understand it, but i liked it nevertheless. :)

Who seriously DID understand that movie after the first view?? Not many, i'm sure.

jenna26 12-14-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 654670)
That's me right there. :o




I didn't understand it, but i liked it nevertheless. :)

Who seriously DID understand that movie after the first view?? Not many, i'm sure.



Yeah, but I am assuming that you actually WATCH the films you discuss here. ;) Sometimes thats me as well, sometimes that is EXACTLY what I want. Its why I like so much crap, it purely escapist fun...there is no shame in that. Other times I do want a film to challenge me a bit more. Its all depends on my mood.

And no one did.....haha...;) But some people seem to have no problem proclaiming that they did, and treating someone else like they are a complete idiot just because that person didn't happen to appreciate it as much as they did. I have no problem that other people like it, or love it, its when they annoyingly insist something is wrong with me because I didn't.

GorePhobia 12-14-2007 09:57 AM

I enjoy movies for entertainment 9 times out of 10. I do WATCH them to get stuff from then but I never really pick a movie apart and analize it because everyone has their own opinion on the matter.

ChronoGrl 12-14-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)
I don't get that. I mean I understand if movies aren't a person's "thing". If its just something they don't enjoy as much as I do, or they just don't have the appreciation for film that I do. I get that. But why even bother to watch a film if you aren't going to REALLY watch it?

Tell it, Sista.

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)
But I suppose it comes down to this, for most people, movies are JUST entertainment. They don't take anything away from it (and I admit I like mindless entertainment as much as the next person). They don't see any meaning in film, because they aren't looking for that. When they decide to see a film, they aren't looking to analyze it, or take anything from it, they want a way to pass the time, or have a bit of fun then immediately forget about it. But having a movie you haven't seen on as "background noise" seems a tad silly to me. Just turn a radio on. ;)

It's true... And I TRY to let it go that people like to watch movies "as entertainment" (which I like to do too... I mean... I LOVE 40 Year Old Virgin, but I'm not sure there's deep meaning in it)... What bothers ME is that while I'll leave them alone and just... ENJOY... They call me a SNOB for actually analyzing... And then scoff at the fact that I forum... WHAT CHOICE DO I HAVE?! :p *snicker*

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)
Oh and I have to say.....its drives me a little crazy when I say I dislike a film and they automatically assume that I don't "get" it. It happens when I mention I am not a fan of Mulholland Dr. I don't know how many times I have been told "well, its just because you didn't UNDERSTAND it". No, its because I think it is a muddled mess and it did absolutely nothing for me. I am a Lynch fan. I just don't like that film. I don't need people talking down to me about it. ;) Its all about your own interpretation of a film, and what you think it is trying to accomplish, and if it accomplished that for YOU.

BUT YOU JUST DON'T GET - hahaha... Yeah, that's actually a really good example... ANY Lynch film, really... I mean, you either love Lynch or hate him... And if you DON'T like his work, that doesn't mean that you're DUMB. It means that you don't want to put up with his incredible self-indulgence. Gotta respect a girl who does that (though I love Lynch, but that's just me).

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654666)
Yet another remake that apparently was just a bad, BAD idea from the get go. Kind of like another one I can name, but won't, because I have bitched about it ad nauseam....*coughblackchristmascough*

OK I'LL WATCH THE ORIGINAL ALREADY! DIE! :p According to Netflix, it should be arriving tomorrow... Following Elf. Score.





...

I'm starting to like THIS one, too...

jenna26 12-14-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 654689)
BUT YOU JUST DON'T GET - hahaha... Yeah, that's actually a really good example... ANY Lynch film, really... I mean, you either love Lynch or hate him... And if you DON'T like his work, that doesn't mean that you're DUMB. It means that you don't want to put up with his incredible self-indulgence. Gotta respect a girl who does that (though I love Lynch, but that's just me).

:p I have found that, not in general, but the Lynch films I dislike, I seem to REALLY dislike. But I love Blue Velvet. Those are the two extremes for me, right there, when it comes to Lynch. Blue Velvet worked for me, and worked incredibly well. Mulholland Dr. really didn't.



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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 654689)
OK I'LL WATCH THE ORIGINAL ALREADY! DIE! :p According to Netflix, it should be arriving tomorrow... Following Elf. Score.

LOL....sorry, I don't mean to NAG....;) But I don't think you will be sorry. I do think I made a big mistake when I watched the remake. We watched the original first (my husband had never seen it) then immediately watched the remake. That probably....colored....my opinion somewhat. Not much, mind you, but I doubt I would hate it QUITE as much, if I would have waited awhile after revisiting a film that I had so much love for for the first time in a couple years.


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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 654689)
I'm starting to like THIS one, too...

:D

ChronoGrl 12-14-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna26 (Post 654699)
:p I have found that, not in general, but the Lynch films I dislike, I seem to REALLY dislike. But I love Blue Velvet. Those are the two extremes for me, right there, when it comes to Lynch. Blue Velvet worked for me, and worked incredibly well. Mulholland Dr. really didn't.

Yeah, I would say that Blue Velvet is certainly his movie opus (I am a HUGE Twin Peaks fan), hands down (Eraserhead just... bothers me, though I'll have to catch it again, and Lost Highway was SO overrated). Mulholland Dr., however, really worked for me... I can definitely understand why people HATED it because I would say, in regards to Lynch's more recent films, this was the most self-conscious and indulgent at the same time... I felt, particularly toward the end, he was breaking down the fourth wall and nodding to the audience as if to say, "Yeah, that's right. I AM David Lynch," though honestly I feel he is also lampooning himself in a way and that I appreciate.

I always liked the film, but it wasn't until I went to L.A. and rented a truck and drove the WHOLE of Mulholland Dr. (from late afternoon into the dark of the evening) that I REALLY appreciated the film... L.A. is such a strange little town filled with quirks and contradictions (from the tack of the Strip to the ranches in the canyons), that I feel that he was almost trying to capture part of the feeling and abstract nature of L.A. and Hollywood itself in a film... And that, to me was brilliant.

But I digress...


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LOL....sorry, I don't mean to NAG.... But I don't think you will be sorry. I do think I made a big mistake when I watched the remake. We watched the original first (my husband had never seen it) then immediately watched the remake. That probably....colored....my opinion somewhat. Not much, mind you, but I doubt I would hate it QUITE as much, if I would have waited awhile after revisiting a film that I had so much love for for the first time in a couple years.

No need to apologize... I just find it really REALLY funny (I'm a huge fan of repetition)... And BELIEVE ME, Jenna... you'll be the first to know when I actually see it.

...

But back to THE THREAD AT HAND

Today I worked from home and took FULL advantage of the Free movies that On Demand had to offer (I DID accomplish a lot workwise, though... I was keeping them on as... background noise... hee hee... I actually selected movies that I had already seen PURPOSEFULLY so that I wouldn't feel so bad having them in the background)...

Event Horizon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...grl/10m-10.jpg

One of my favorite horror movies, hands down, I find Event Horizon was sadly overlooked when it came out.

Highlights:
  • It appeals both to my HORROR and geeky scifi sensibilities, and does so well. I appreciate the gritty vision of the crew, which is definitely a throwback to Alien.
  • It stars Sam Neil... My dear Dr. Grant. A wonderful villian.
  • The characters are genuine and LIKEABLE without being overly silly.
  • The "horror" aspects of the film REALLY get to me. The ship literally HAUNTS everyone, appealing to all of their weaknesses. The visions of memories fill me incredible horrified pathos. Brilliant.
  • The concept and brief depiction of infinite Hell... Absolutely horrifies me. Now, I'm not a religious person, by any means (I'm an Atheist), but the concept of infinite and ETERNAL suffering - that's just... horrifying. And this movie made me consider it for the first time. *shiver*
  • Haunted house brought to a ship. Again, very Alien, but done very well. Isolation and alienation was done INCREDIBLY well.

The bit that bothers me:
WHY would you make a ship with so many sharp points?!

Despite that, I love this movie. LOVE it. A-/A

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The Craft

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...grl/10m-11.jpg

Wow. I haven't seen this movie since high school. What a fun little flick. Not to mention, it's refreshing to see witch movies that aren't silly. I think that it works as a witch/horror film as well as a teen high school movie. Toward the end, I feel pathos for their victims, and I actually feel THREAT from the avenging witches, which is actually pretty impressive. And, not to mention, Fairuza Balk is HELLA hot.

B/B+

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The Wizard

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...grl/10m-12.jpg

PURE nostalgia. I hadn't seen this movie since my DAD took me when it was in the theater... :) And that was BEFORE Mario 3 came out (good marketing campaign for Nintendo).

WOW I had forgotten that Christian Slater was in that movie... I love the little random films that he's done.

But anyway... It's a fun little kids movie. Definitely appealed to me as a Nintendo junkie. Not sure if it withstood the test of time, BUT it was fun to revisit nonetheless.

B (includes extra points for nostalgia)

joshaube 12-14-2007 05:56 PM

I Am Legend

Let's get this out of the way, first. Yes, a new The Dark Night trailer was attached to it. And yes, we finally get to see how Heath fills The Joker's boots. I think he does a rather good job, from what was shown. In fact, my friend leaned over and asked me "Is that Jack Nicholson?" I found it hysterical, considering she isn't even aware that Jack Nicholson played The Joker before.

Now, the movie itself. I have not read I Am Legend, nor seen any of the numerous film versions. From what little I knew, I had assumed that this was your typical infection-kills-most-of-the-population / apocalypse / zombie flick. You have a main character (male) battling hordes of zombies with a rifle.

If your expecting this, and looking forward to this... you're going to be disappointed. Luckily, while I had assumed this, I wasn't really looking forward to it, and was pleasantly surprised by how different it ended up being.

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly elements of this type of film within I Am Legend. You have the main character, he does carry a gun, he does fight off "zombies", and there is an infection.

But this film is not about all that. It's about the man himself.

The story follows this one man; apparently the "last" man alive. We see him live his life, alone. The only companion being a faithful pet. He sets up mannequins in the town, interacting with them bit by bit, each day... trying to keep his sanity. He hunts, he fishes... not because he has to, but to pass the time. He borrows movies, watching films from A - Z, in order. He is part-way through the G's. He broadcasts a distress call, and he waits. When the darkness approaches, he retreats back to his house - never traveling back in the darkness itself. He has elaborate locks which he uses to secure himself. He sleeps, curled by his faithful pet, holding a gun. Until the daylight comes, and he repeats this process again. It's all he can do from going insane.

PS. I'm going to warn you now. It has a heartbreaking scene in it; most of the audience gave way to whimpers. I'll safely bet a few even shed a tear. It is exceptionally well executed, and is one of the staying points (for me.)

The film does have some exceptional scenes, which are simply dripping with atmosphere and dread. There were points in the film when you completely knew something was going to happen, something bad, and you sank down in your seat - waiting.

There are scenes which are very well set-up and delivered. The one that stands out the most being... (SPOILER... highlight to read.) when he accidentally gets caught in a trap; slips, hits his head, begins bleeding, and is hung by his foot... the puddle below him slowly turning red with his own fluids. He goes out of it, waking up only in time to hear his alarm going off, and the sky darkening. The blood will act as a calling signal for the creatures who feed on it, and he has nowhere to go... Or the scene where these creatures try lunging at him, as he barely crawls away with an injury. The only thing keeping him from being devoured is a thin strip of light, created by the side of a towering building, as the sun slowly sets. And it's setting fast.

One thing I thought especially well-done was the use of flashbacks; detailing the 'evacuation' when the infection first began spreading. One scene is delivered, split up into segments of 1-3 minutes, littered across the movie. The final flashback does not complete the scene, merely suggesting what happened, not showing it. It is quite powerful, the audience reacted strongly.

The ending was also well-done. I won't ruin it for you. So, that's all I'm going to say.

It's worth a watch, in my opinion. I'll be buying it when it comes out on DVD. It takes your infection story to a higher level. More a character study, a story about one man trying to live a life alone. Honestly, the relationship between the main character and his pet stole the film, for me.

B+ / A-

ChronoGrl 12-14-2007 06:30 PM

Oh, Josh, how you tempt me...

I am SO excited about this film, but I am trying to go into film-media-lockdown as much as humanly possible before seeing it...

straining not to read your post...

Looks like you liked it, though (I scrolled down to the letter rating)... I'll have to touch base with you when I see it. :)

GorePhobia 12-14-2007 08:31 PM

I agree with Josh it was a very well executed film. I enjoyed it alot. The way they make you feel dread and just feel for him being the last person makes you feel like your going insane with him.

A for me.

Posher778 12-14-2007 08:50 PM

Saved!- 7/10 I liked it. A nice look at religious steriotypes.

Smokin' Aces- 6.5/10 There's no way to understand wtf this film is about, and I think that's why I love it. It just goes from bad to worse again and again, and the mayhem is exciting. Not well put together at all, but it's fun.

alkytrio666 12-14-2007 08:58 PM

Sunset Boulevard (1950)

Amazing. Billy Wilder had this impeccable storytelling talent that truly had a way to sweep you away. Excellently casted and brilliantly calculated, and one of the most chilling endings to any movie, ever.

hellfire1 12-14-2007 10:04 PM

Elf

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fortunato 12-14-2007 10:23 PM

george sluizer's spoorloos (a.k.a. the vanishing) (1988)

i've seen this movie a few times, and every time i watch it, it creeps me out a little more. such a chilling look into not only the mind of a killer, but the intimate details of his life. it's gentile, and still terrifying.

8.5/10

p.s. don't watch the effing remake.

roshiq 12-14-2007 10:46 PM

Child's play 1 & 2

>>: B-

The Motorcycle Diaries

>>: A-

alkytrio666 12-15-2007 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 654818)
george sluizer's spoorloos (a.k.a. the vanishing) (1988)

i've seen this movie a few times, and every time i watch it, it creeps me out a little more. such a chilling look into not only the mind of a killer, but the intimate details of his life. it's gentile, and still terrifying.

8.5/10

p.s. don't watch the effing remake.

I love this movie. It's a real creeper, a movie that crawls under your skin and just lies for awhile.

jenna26 12-15-2007 06:17 AM

Machined ~ interesting in concept, but suffered from a poor, often silly execution. Which would have been okay, if it would have at least been FUN, but it was quite possibly the most boring hour and half or so I have ever had to endure. I was actually falling asleep while watching. Now I know how to cure my sleep problems, pop this baby in, and just sleep on the couch....:rolleyes:

The Mothman 12-15-2007 06:53 AM

caught the last half hour of Alien Apocolypse on Sci-fi.

Campbell owns so many aliens.

alkytrio666 12-15-2007 08:43 AM

Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006)

jaybomb 12-15-2007 08:57 AM

watched return to house on haunted hill...the acting was over the top horrible, alot of the deaths looked to fake, not a good movie by ant means
also watched planet terror, saw this when it came out haven"t watched it since...great movie lots of gore, acting was great and good story and action

ChronoGrl 12-15-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jaybomb (Post 654852)
watched return to house on haunted hill...the acting was over the top horrible, alot of the deaths looked to fake, not a good movie by ant means

Did you watch it on DVD? I saw a comercial that talked it up to be "interactive" as in "CHOOSE YOUR OWN MOVIE"... Who dies and who lives...

Did you get that version? I'm a little curious to see if it actually worked and if it was as nifty as it sounds...

jaybomb 12-15-2007 10:24 AM

i have the dvd, but just watched the movie, didn't know about that option, i'll check it out later when i get off work and let you know

Disease 12-15-2007 10:54 AM

The Nightmare Before Christmas 3D

I saw it at the cinema last night, I had a great time... It was the first time I've seen a movie in 3D. I hadn't noticed before how mean Jck Skeleton is to Zero..

8.5/10


Gremlins

I thought I was going to miss it because of work , but it turned out I was on day shift. It was great to come home and watch this classic.. I now actually think it is Christmas time...

8/10

Roderick Usher 12-15-2007 11:31 AM

I Am Legend

Where to begin?

The good: Will Smith is excellent. His performance is nuanced and off-kilter and engaging - I was rather surprised. The first half of the film is a great character study with incredible visuals. Manhattan looks like a wonderfully realized version of what Washington D.C. was in the end of Logan's Run. The running time was refreshing as well, clocking in at 100 minutes, it is a brisk-paced film that never feels bloated.

The Bad: The third act came out of nowhere. The digi creatures looked no better than THE MUMMY and the story... It sure as shit isn't Matheson's I Am Legend.

For those not familiar with Matheson's source material it could be seen as a worthy entry into Last man on Earth, apocalyptic survival movie genre. To everyone else it will be a disappointment.

I liked some elements and truly appreciated the world in which the story takes place, but it fell a little flat for me.

6.5/10

joshaube 12-15-2007 11:44 AM

The post-hype rating is B/B+ for I Am Legend.

I agree with Roderick that the creature effects were very poorly done. Everything looked far too cartoon-y, including the animals (rats, deer, and lions) within the world. The third act was also the weakest.

Perhaps the reason I enjoyed it so much is simply because I have not digested any previous I Am Legend material. Or the fact that I love character studies.

Geddy 12-15-2007 12:32 PM

Strange Brew.
Taxi Driver.
First Blood with Sly Stallone commentary.

GorePhobia 12-15-2007 01:54 PM

I loved I Am Legend. Never read anything about the source material and don't quite care that the creatures looked cartoonish because they are CG and you can't get priceless things. The city looked amazing because they most likely used the outline of it from real time and then added the CGI look after which is why that looks amazing and the creatures didn't because they were straight CG. I still liked it no matter what.

Angra 12-15-2007 02:03 PM

"Graveyard Shift" 7-8/10


I still think this is one of the best Stephen King movies out there, and even tho it's from 1990 it doesn't seem very dated.

Great little monster flick.

nightmare_of _death 12-15-2007 03:31 PM

Black Christmas (1975)

Posher778 12-15-2007 04:42 PM

The Matrix Revolutions- 3/10

The only thing that was even remotely interesting was the flight patterns of the sentinels, and that's not saying much. Repetitive and slow, dark and depressing, this movie has little to offer. The ending is terrible, the climax is even worse. This is another trilogy murderer. The first was phenomenal, the second was confusing but watchable, but this one? /suicide

horrorobsessed 12-15-2007 05:03 PM

super troopers 7/10

Kincaid 12-15-2007 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Geddy (Post 654883)
First Blood with Sly Stallone commentary.

The hospital anecdote had me in stitches...




Get it?

Posher778 12-15-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kincaid (Post 654936)
The hospital anecdote had me in stitches...




Get it?

Easy... I don't think i can take much more of that hilarity...:cool:

paws the great 12-15-2007 07:57 PM

Superbad - 6/10

Freak 12-15-2007 09:20 PM

Anchorman The Legend of Ron Burgandy 8/10



Sixty percent of the time, it works all the time.

AUSTIN316426808 12-15-2007 09:26 PM

Batman Forever

fortunato 12-15-2007 10:39 PM

funny games
an incredibly difficult jaw-opener, but still amazing

the aristocats
a disney classic


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