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Old 09-11-2015, 03:24 AM
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Jason and Michael never speak and are relentless and unrecognisable, that's why its easy to swap actors. With freddie it would be virtually instantly recognisable. Either way it it doesn't make him a horror icon. Nobody has yet to answer why cropsy and the bloke from the prowler, or even harry warden aren't equal icons or why they shouldnt be. As for the clip what other villain could do that, well any kind of entity and a director with a reasonable budget
The definition of Icon is, " a person or thing widely regarded as a representative symbol of something." If Freddy doesn't represent horror, I really don't know what or who does. As for Cropsy and " the bloke from the prowler" I imagine the term " widely regarded " doesn't apply, so that's a clear separation in my mind. Freddy is known from one continent to another. Children, adults and everyone in between know his name, his costume and his face. The name alone brings immediate visions of terror and flashing blades. When u say Freddy, you say horror. Asking why "the bloke from the Prowler " isn't regarded in the same iconic light as Freddy Krueger is like asking why we don't put sawdust in our soup. It makes no sense.
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Old 09-11-2015, 06:22 AM
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not sure how freddie is 'representive' of horror, in that case dracula should be above them all surely, same arguement for well known global appeal.

p.s i love your 'swadust in the soup' analogy repo, its random but great!

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Old 09-11-2015, 08:27 AM
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Ha! Yeah, Neil, that one came out of nowhere.
As to your point about Dracula, I agree Ol' fang face should be atop or near the top of any list of horrors representatives...just a few notches above Freddy!
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Old 09-11-2015, 02:24 PM
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Of course you could always start a reasonable argument that Michael and Jason shouldn't be included either! Still let's not slaughter too many sacred cows eh!
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:23 PM
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Amen to that, brother!
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:03 PM
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Of course you could always start a reasonable argument that Michael and Jason shouldn't be included either! Still let's not slaughter too many sacred cows eh!
I first read that as Michael Jackson. I'm amused.
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:21 AM
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one final thing about freddie, and its, by a long way, the thing that irritates me the most abbout his films. Given that the person freddie is after can have powers (dream warriors). Why doesnt somebody just turn themselves into an invisible, indestructible, impervious to damage, entity and just instantly vapourise freddie, and then dissolve his vapour! problem solved! Its a dream so it actually makes a lot more sense than a normal kid trying to shoot a slasher villain!

Also why does freddie limit his choices to kids in America rather than any kid in the universe!
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:16 AM
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Okay have you actually seen A Nightmare on Elm Street?
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:43 AM
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Why does Michael Myers stalk one town? Why doesn't he stalk the kids in Mumbai?
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one final thing about freddie, and its, by a long way, the thing that irritates me the most abbout his films. Given that the person freddie is after can have powers (dream warriors). Why doesnt somebody just turn themselves into an invisible, indestructible, impervious to damage, entity and just instantly vapourise freddie, and then dissolve his vapour! problem solved! Its a dream so it actually makes a lot more sense than a normal kid trying to shoot a slasher villain!

Also why does freddie limit his choices to kids in America rather than any kid in the universe!

I suppose because that would be too easy, & it wouldn't be much fun if Freddy was so easily defeated. I liked Dream Warriors, Phillip's death is one of my favorites especially. As to why Freddy stuck to America, it's because the parents of the Elm Street kids are the ones who burned/killed him. Not the parents of the children in Brazil.
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