Stephen King's IT

[anglewitch]

If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by anglewitch

If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

Even if the original was a made for TV mini series that technically was a poor adaptation of a excellent book. I would tell you this, read the book, then rewatch the miniseries, then make judgment's about the new one.

Your generalizing a much broader sub genre of horror (the remake) most movies are "remakes" with enough tweaks to make you forget there was an original.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by brainscan

it looks like it will be OK, and maybe this will help some people. I think of every remake as a multiverse of the original. The made of TV movie Turtles Forever helped me with that so whenever there is a remake i think of it as that universes original so that makes it OK, Yeah things are a little different each time but that is because that is how it happened in that universe. It's like ours the Prime and the remakes are different branches of it in the other universes. It helped me a lot to be able to enjoy more movies ^_^

An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

[brainscan]

Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth

An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by brainscan

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

New ideas are really an idea of their own. Almost anything, no matter how fresh it is, can be tied back to a base story that relates to another movie. This new IT, I have very high hopes for. The little clips that leaked out from behind the scenes already show The Leper, who was in the book but never in the original movie. The problem so far with all of the Stephen King adaptations is that he puts so much amazing, imaginative detail in the stories, that most studios don't want to front the money to make real on screen. So far it seems that they are fronting the money on this one. Hopefully we get four hours of solid, brutal, R rated filth. Its really what the first one should have been, and could have been had it not been shot for TV.

We also need to remember as a whole, that Pennywise was one of MANY forms IT took in the book. It was the most memorable, but not the only by any means. It preys on your fears and finds a recognizable way to destroy you. I recommend going into this "remake" as though it where its own stand alone film, also, read the book first.

As for the Tower, it calls some and passes by many. But it is by far my favorite story ever written. Its beautiful and grotesque and infatuating all in one. I cant wait to see it on screen in February.

[anglewitch]

Originally Posted by brainscan

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by anglewitch

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

More agreeing to disagree. I don't think there are any original ideas left. At least a self admitted remake/reboot is not trying to cover up how trivial it truly is to try to make an original film. At the end of the day, its us, the silly public that don't want to see the movies we loved as children remade. I think we are generally scared that a remake will be better, thus breaking our childhood so we se them through shit colored glasses. Go back and watch IT, I watched it again over the weekend with my oldest son (9), its a bad movie... Of course Tim Curry is great and they had excellent child actors, but the movie is not good and its a terrible representation of the book. What worse is, if you go back and watch a lot of the "classics" that we fear being remade, they aren't good movies. But they where awesome when we saw them as kids. I say remake them all, then remake the remakes. Its not like there has been shit for original films in the last five years that have been worth a damn anyway.

[anglewitch]

Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by anglewitch

Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

The problem there lies in public interest. There is no reason to make a movie that isn't going to profit. A select few people will make their way to see a movie that has so little backing. It costs millions of dollars to make a decent movie. There has to be wide appeal, there has to be an audience. I could name off a hundred books I would love to see on film but I cant say enough people would want to see it for a company to make money on the venture.

All of that aside, all your point did was solidify my stance that nothing is original. Turning books into movies isn't very original... Not to mention all of the people who would do exactly what you do with remakes "The movie wont do the book justice, they should just leave well enough alone."

[anglewitch]

That's it, I going to stay out of these threads about remakes since I am making an utter fool of myself.

Verdammt!