The Gay Thread

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by fuglystick

You're an idiot.

Praise from Cesar.

[cheebacheeba]

I understand what he's saying to an extent...
I mean I've let it be known in here that I find certain elements or I dunno, would you call it "styles"? personas? of gay a little uncomfortable, and yes I can't say I'd really be thrilled to witness two guys making out...though in all honesty this pretty much applies to most prolonged PDA.
(Two girls making out, well...yeah I prefer porn without guys in it, so...bit biased)
I don't feel wrong at all in having these feelings, and I don't think anyone in their right mind could really lable me anti-gay.
Though do I think a person could do a better job because they're straight or gay?
Unless you're talking about certain jobs sexually, then no.
That's the line - that's taking it from feelings of "hm, this is different/awkward/weird" to "this is BAD because it's different/awkward/weird", then casting preconceptions on a persons worth or ability on account of their sexuality, going from personal opinion or feelings you experience, to something a little more malicious.
Experiencing feelings is one thing, acting upon them is another - this applies to many aspects of life...how many employers have you wanted to knock the shit out of, on account of their condescension, lack of ability, or abrasive demeanor?
How many members of the opposite sex do you see that you'd like to fuck? For me, it's many...but then, not acting on things like this is what keeps assault and sexual misconduct charges away from us.
You can discriminate and choose your company when it comes to your personal life, but the day you do so and it effects the lifestyle or infringes on the rights of another person, or their placement/ongoing employment within a workplace then you've crossed a line.

That said, again on the original point I'm not big on the whole PDA thing (again, unless it's two chicks)...but then, I'd rather just place myself elsewhere or look elsewhere than to even bother commenting...if it's happening on the ongoing IN a workplace, well regardless of sex/preference that's kind of inappropriate - I don't think there's a gay or straight person that could really disagree with that.

[ferretchucker]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

I'm saying not it ok to abuse someone who is gay. Whether its physical or verbal. It's probably wrong. But... What is wrong with someone saying that they aren't going to give a gay a job, because he is gay?

Because that is discrimination based upon personal bias. If you feel that their sexuality may impair the person's ability to do the job, then I suppose it would be alright, however even that's a stretch. Lifestyle could play a fair part in it. I mean, if it was a type of person who was out all night with all sorts of promiscuous partners sharing needles blah blah blah then it's understandable that you wouldn't want them working for you. The thing is, all of those bad things could be done by a straight person.

The general difference is that you're DENYING somebody something for reasons which they cannot change. It's no different to not hiring somebody black simply because they're black.

Then again, I don't think I'd particularly want to work for a homophobic boss, so we'd be on the same page.

[cheebacheeba]

I think maybe the Tasmanian is trying to be controversial...

[gothjuice]

love always creates fear because love is death. death, death, death, the whore...

[fuglystick]

Originally Posted by gothjuice

love always creates fear because love is death. death, death, death, the whore...

:rolleyes:

It's Night of the Living Cliche

[gothjuice]

Originally Posted by fuglystick

:rolleyes:

It's Night of the Living Cliche

no one truly lives, we are far too busy dying... any differences between the living dead and the dying living are purely trivial. TRIVIAL...

[ferretchucker]

Originally Posted by gothjuice

no one truly lives, we are far too busy dying... any differences between the living dead and the dying living are purely trivial. TRIVIAL...

That's so weird, I said the exact same thing this morning!

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by ferretchucker

Because that is discrimination based upon personal bias. If you feel that their sexuality may impair the person's ability to do the job, then I suppose it would be alright, however even that's a stretch. Lifestyle could play a fair part in it. I mean, if it was a type of person who was out all night with all sorts of promiscuous partners sharing needles blah blah blah then it's understandable that you wouldn't want them working for you. The thing is, all of those bad things could be done by a straight person.

The general difference is that you're DENYING somebody something for reasons which they cannot change. It's no different to not hiring somebody black simply because they're black.

Then again, I don't think I'd particularly want to work for a homophobic boss, so we'd be on the same page.

I agree. But. Because homophobia. Is a natural condition. Then a gay employer. Should not be able to deny employment to a homophobic. But i bet, if it went to court. The gay boss would win the court case. Which is discriminatory.

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by cheebacheeba

I think maybe the Tasmanian is trying to be controversial...

Meh. I have never been to tasmania in my life. But anyway. I'm not trying to be anything. Just stating a ponderment. If ya all want threads which are just full of people patting each other in the back. I wont post here anymore. Not in hdc. just this thread.