My Wife’s girlfriend was cheating on her husband, (we did not know about it) he found out one night. He started beating on her, drug her into the basement, and choked her to the point she passed out. Their daughter, 14 at the time was on his back hitting and screaming the whole time for him to stop. Once he did he ran upstairs, got a 10-gauge shotgun and barricaded himself in the bathroom threatening to kill himself. His Wife finally regained conciseness and her and the Daughter ran out of the house to a neighbors and called the police.

All the while James had got the phone and called his Mom and Brother telling them what had happened, how he couldn’t live with himself, or knowing about his Wife’s infidelity, or the possibility of his going to jail. The Police surrounded the house and talked to him for hours. They finally decided to break into the house, when they did, he blew his head off with the shotgun.

That has been about 3 ½ years ago, both his kids and his Wife do not seem to even care. Both of the kids are into drugs, Their Daughter is now working at a strip club as a dancer, and their Son dropped out of High School. I know that this more then likely would not have happened if James were still alive, (I’m not saying he could stop everything, but a positive Male presence in the home can help).

I was a not real good friend of James, but he was a tough Son-of-a-Bitch, and this was so far out of what I’d ever expected him to do. His family’s reaction really suprises me too. All of this transpired in a matter of 6-8 hours, and despite quite a few people’s efforts, he still killed himself, I guess my point is that all the warning signs in the world can’t prevent anything sometimes. But that’s just my opinion.

the wife might not care because she was already interested in someone else. plus he got violent with her.

i think its safe to say the kids definately have issues with it.

Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see...

[chorus]:

That suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now I know that it's too late, and...

[Chorus]

The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say.

[Chorus]

The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
and to another give my seat
for that's the only painless feat.

[Chorus]

MASH
The sword of time will pierce our skins
It doesn't hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[Chorus]

A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
'is it to be or not to be'
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

'Cause suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
...and you can do the same thing if you choose.

thank you Louden Wainright the 3rd :)



i know i spelled that horribly.

I used to have gold fish in a tank, when i was a kid. They used to eat the same food all the time.... wonder whether that drove them to near suicide?

that .. and the fact that they eat where they shit.

and piss, but dont they have a 3 second memory... so in effect they'd have new suicide thoughts every 3 seconds.

50 first Dates ? only - with fish !

or Groundhog Day...

or .....


or.......


or that one with ......




i forgot