Another one to get excited about. Looks like some pretty amazing teamplay from the other videos ive seen, but this is just cool :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2&q=quake+wars

You want to see awesomely realistic environments and real-life physics?

Step outside.

It's crazy how real that shit is!

:p

It's just another form of story telling, where the person being entertained is active rather than passive.

Seriously...I really do like virtual minigolf, and virtual pool games too. The ball physics make that stuff realistic, and you don't have to go anywhere to do it. I like virtual things.

From a different thread, but:


Why do you dislike video games so much? Especially these days, every bit as much work and passion (sometimes more) goes into a game as a movie, and the goal of both is the same.

But I can't legally use those physics to hurl barrells of explosive liquid (while it's on fire) at people for fun. Besides, real phsycis mixed with an over the top world create an experience that can't be replicated in real life. A lot of games, the good ones at least, are like watching a movie or reading a book only you control some of it.

Exactly. This is why i cant stand sports games, i can actually play football, or baseball, but i cant crawl through the alien infested depths of an underground government research facility while combating special forces. Not this week anyway.

I like some sports games, especially playing with buddies. Sure I can go outside and toss the ball around but when we're both controlling a team and trash talking... it's just fun. Although I'd rather play non-sports games. Creeping through a casino that's been taken over by terrorists while the abduction of your team is still fresh on your mind.

Exactly why I don't like video games. If the general public controls it, it can't possibly be art.

In a book or movie an artist is taking you on a voyage that is specifically designed to ellicit specific emotions and reactions. Every bit of it is crafted to deliver the artist's message, his or her words and/or images exactly as they are intended. Immersing yourself in a book or movie is to relinquish control, to give in completely to a creator's will.

Video games have no set path. Yes there are game perameters and specific scenarios, characters and environments. Yes they are crafted by skilled individuals who are telling a story, but the experience of controlling the action yourself eliminates the possiblilty for artistic expression and reflection.

Mostly it's just BOOM BOOM BOOM and people living out thier most malicious intents.

I will concede that eye-hand coordination and problem solving skills can certianly be improved by playing these games...I can see it in my children.

But honestly what do you like most in your gaming experience? Shooting and blowing shit up, right? You don't walk away from a 4 hour gaming marathon puzzling over the arc of the characters or the social/philosophical implications of what alien contact would mean to mankind, or how path global terrorism is going to affect our daily lives - you just want to shoot the fuckers.

It plays to the basest human instincts and I will not soil myself with it. I hate the medium.

There, I'm done. I'll leave you gamers alone now.

Ahh, but things they are a-changin'

more and more, games are being desinged to illicit emotion rather than run and gun. Sure, killing is part of it, but that hardly separates it from film or tv. The characters have personalities and backgrounds, there is a point to everything.

Half-life and its sequal are very story driven. FEAR is practically a movie that you get to walk through.