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Roderick Usher 04-09-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 584940)
*SPOILER*

Is it not possible in the beginning of the film that this CRAZY girl saw an actual person and then from there in her subconsience imagined him as a killer (the head thing was her imagination)? You see, this way her imagination creates this false murderer from a source, it's not all imagined. Besides, how do we know how far this girl's psychosis goes? She could imagine herself in two seperate places easily... she's the murderer and she's simply imagining herself hiding from the beast that she's become. Instead of her hiding physically in a gas station or under a bed it's all mental, she's hiding from her darker half and visualising it which we are lucky enough to see. I may not be explaining myself well, I'm very tired, hopefully you get what I mean.

if you have to stretch this far to get some sense out of it, then you must admit there isn't a hint of logic here.

chaibill 04-09-2007 07:08 PM

ok am i crazy i read a review of High Tention on www.ign.com 1st they say that the killer shows up when the blond is smoking out side but she was upstairs
and they say the intro on the special featers is good to watch i looked at this after i saw the film and to me it was all in french maybe i missed somthing and sub titles didn't work. maybe it was my dvd player

Despare 04-09-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 584943)
if you have to stretch this far to get some sense out of it, then you must admit there isn't a hint of logic here.

I don’t think it’s much of a stretch at all to see certain things as physical manifestations of her psychosis. Maybe I'm just sleepy. ;)

smo_go1 04-10-2007 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 584769)
No, 12 Monkeys was a self perpetuating time-travel conundrum

High Tension is a logical nightmare throughout. A hodgepodge of slasher imagery strung together without any concept of continuity.

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The killer is constantly in more than one place at a time, like the opening bit with the killer in the pick-up truck WHILE the chicks are driving together. A car chase with one's self? A fistfight with one's self?

because she's insane dude, she thinks she's in more than one place. when it shows them driving together, it's just the girl driving in reality. they don't know eachother.

when the killer girl beats the shit out of the killer man (whatever) she's just hitting the ground with a post. she thinks she sees him.

PR3SSUR3 04-10-2007 03:27 AM

The visualisation of the killer's alter-ego and his imagined whereabouts shouldn't be too much of a problem for mature audiences, really - though I can see why smart-arsed teenage girls might be a bit put out.

There wasn't so much complaint about the 'two-places-at-once' scenarios in Fight Club. I think the problem might be that by the time Haute Tension came along, audiences were just about recovered from being tricked like this and had adopted the 'won't fool me twice!' stance. And to pull this in a gory slasher flick! The distaste is almost understandable.

But anyone who claims they 'got' the twist before it happened is a lowdown, doggone liar ;)

smo_go1 04-10-2007 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3 (Post 585086)
anyone who claims they 'got' the twist before it happened is a lowdown, doggone liar ;)

nah man, because the whole film is laid out in the first five mins of it, you just can't peice it together that easy

PR3SSUR3 04-10-2007 07:17 AM

Ha ha - I believe you.... thousands wouldnt.

:D

chaibill 04-10-2007 07:43 AM

i think they knew each other cause she sees her friend at the end in the mental hospital
why go see some one you don't know that killed your family they knew each other the crazy one was in love with her

Burning in Hell 04-10-2007 08:38 AM

***** SPOILERS *****

The whole fat killer is NOT a split personnality thing from my point of view. At the beginning of the movie, Marie is in the psychic hospital, and she is asked to retell what happened. Marie takes on the role of the narrator of the story, so this is why we see the killer do things when she is not there.

She did everything, the killer is just someone she made up to justify the fact that it was not her. He can be seen perhaps as the embodiement of her murderous urges in her story, but I don't seem him as a split personnality per se. Call it distancing if you will: "No, I couldn't have done such things, a killer came into the house, I pursued him, we fought..."

These things happen very often, how many times do we hear about a murder case where a mysterious killer entered a house just to find out later that such a man never existed, and that the husband/wife/father/mother, etc. did it?

PR3SSUR3 04-10-2007 12:07 PM

Very good point, since the bulk of the movie seems to be told as 'flashback'- this adds a new layer of reality with the chance to be distorted further.

Though of course the investigative policeman's point of view does come into it (he discovers the CCTV footage), which kind of drags the film out of the personal flashback sense.


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