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GhostlyChills 09-03-2009 03:44 AM

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I'm not seeing the main idea in your untitled book. Being evil is good. T:mad:hat isn't fitting in with me.

Ferox13 09-03-2009 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 827364)
Learn to use apostrophes properly too :)

LOL - I've discovered an new sub genre - Grammar Nazi exploitation :-)
How do u look in Jack boots Elvis?

GhostlyChills 09-03-2009 09:34 AM

Opening Sentence
 
The heading on the daily news paper, read. "15,000,000 are unemployed in the U.S." Timmy fished in his pants pocket and pulled out three quarter, tossing them in his palm like dice, inserting the quarters into the news paper machine, he yanks on the news paper machine handle and pulls out a news paper.:D

Non of you can do better.

Doc Faustus 09-03-2009 09:51 AM

Newspaper is one word. There doesn't need to be a comma. Quarters should be plural. Period after dice. This doesn't need to be one sentence. Newspaper is still one word. A word you use four times in a paragraph. "Newspaper machine handle" is clunky. And lastly what the hell else is he gonna pull out? A squirrel? Poverty is scary, it's wonderful grounds for horror (Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The People Under The Stairs) but something must be coming out of the poverty. Read Jung, read Campbell and to learn to write read The Art of Fiction or On Writing. I don't want to be mean, but I can do better. I'll have three books in print come October. One of which was compared favorably to the works of Jonathan Swift in a review. You have expressed that any work of King's has less merit than the very mediocre The Regulators because statistically it sold less (Wikipedia is a wonderful substitute for literacy, isn't it?) and have displayed an ignorance in regards to using the English language as tool or weapon. Learn some humility, read more and hone the craft.
"Starving for a red hot hotdog, Timmy took his final Taco Bell paycheck to Dr.Hotdog's hotdog shack. He looked at the hotdog girl, with burning hotdog desire in his eyes and pain in his hotdogless stomach, and said "Gimme a hotdog." They were out of hotdogs."
Don't do THAT!

Doc Faustus 09-03-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zombie ash (Post 827431)
is this a good story for a book.
this kid is born and the mother is still a virgin. nothing happends bad till the night he was born. she went into labor and it was the worst birthing ever. so much blood and black warm liquid. the kid wasent crying but his eyes we open wide and had just this blank expression. the lady died giving birth to her son she named before she died. his name was Alister.
When hes about 7 he starts to turn very angry and just wants to break everything and do nothing but destroy. but never ever makes a sound ever. Then when he turns 12 he gets much much worse when he starts to get into acid and speed. sex drugs rock and roll and insanity. He doesnt remember everything but he seems to untouchable. blood all over the place and out for drug and mayham. but weird shit happends to him a lot. due to, too much acid use?
in the end it turns out the kid is now 66 years old and is talking to himself saying everything he has ever done but hes only talking to himself.
i got no name yet but im really serious about this. been thinking for a little. and thought of this and a couple others.
led me get some feed back. thank
PEACE

David Crowleyfield? Remember this: in genre fiction, you do not need characters to be wacked out druggies for weird things to happen. Read some Kafka. Read some Burroughs. Ligotti. Barker. Mc Cammon. It might be neat to do the autobiography of somebody who has grown up with the taint of evil on him, but I'd say look for another angle and play up the humor in the concept. The coming of age novel is a tiresome thing and poking holes in it using horror and satire can be pretty cool. I would say: think nature/nurture conflict, think existential questions, think the rock and roll lifestyle. Sex, drugs and rock and roll can supplement a Dorian Grey type hedonist but they cannot make them a person and they cannot be used as a reason for strange events to happen. Also, ask yourself if you have a story or just some images. It happens to me all the time. I have a cool image in my head and some vague occurrences surrounding it and I sit down believing I'm writing a novel. Three brainbusting days later, I realize I had a piece of flash fiction at best. Write stories, try a novella first. It takes some amount of grit and experience in writing to do a good novel. More grit to sell a good novel when you don't know anybody.

newb 09-03-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 827470)
Newspaper is one word. There doesn't need to be a comma. Quarters should be plural. Period after dice. This doesn't need to be one sentence. Newspaper is still one word. A word you use four times in a paragraph. "Newspaper machine handle" is clunky. And lastly what the hell else is he gonna pull out? A squirrel? Poverty is scary, it's wonderful grounds for horror (Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The People Under The Stairs) but something must be coming out of the poverty. Read Jung, read Campbell and to learn to write read The Art of Fiction or On Writing. I don't want to be mean, but I can do better. I'll have three books in print come October. One of which was compared favorably to the works of Jonathan Swift in a review. You have expressed that any work of King's has less merit than the very mediocre The Regulators because statistically it sold less (Wikipedia is a wonderful substitute for literacy, isn't it?) and have displayed an ignorance in regards to using the English language as tool or weapon. Learn some humility, read more and hone the craft.
"Starving for a red hot hotdog, Timmy took his final Taco Bell paycheck to Dr.Hotdog's hotdog shack. He looked at the hotdog girl, with burning hotdog desire in his eyes and pain in his hotdogless stomach, and said "Gimme a hotdog." They were out of hotdogs."
Don't do THAT!

Wait....are you telling me you've never reached into a "news paper machine" and pulled out a squirrel ? I find that hard to believe.:rolleyes:

Doc Faustus 09-03-2009 10:15 AM

No, but I occasionally have the misfortune of finding newspapers in my Vend-a-Squirrel machine.

zombie ash 09-03-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 827471)
David Crowleyfield? Remember this: in genre fiction, you do not need characters to be wacked out druggies for weird things to happen. Read some Kafka. Read some Burroughs. Ligotti. Barker. Mc Cammon. It might be neat to do the autobiography of somebody who has grown up with the taint of evil on him, but I'd say look for another angle and play up the humor in the concept. The coming of age novel is a tiresome thing and poking holes in it using horror and satire can be pretty cool. I would say: think nature/nurture conflict, think existential questions, think the rock and roll lifestyle. Sex, drugs and rock and roll can supplement a Dorian Grey type hedonist but they cannot make them a person and they cannot be used as a reason for strange events to happen. Also, ask yourself if you have a story or just some images. It happens to me all the time. I have a cool image in my head and some vague occurrences surrounding it and I sit down believing I'm writing a novel. Three brainbusting days later, I realize I had a piece of flash fiction at best. Write stories, try a novella first. It takes some amount of grit and experience in writing to do a good novel. More grit to sell a good novel when you don't know anybody.

thank you for that. it would be better without the drugs. that just improved my idea. thank you. :D

Ferox13 09-03-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 827471)
Sex, drugs and rock and roll can supplement a Dorian Grey type hedonist but they cannot make them a person and they cannot be used as a reason for strange events to happen.

I think you mean Dorian Gray :-)

I think I'll do a tag team with Elvis :-)

Doc Faustus 09-03-2009 12:48 PM

I thought that looked wrong.


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