I didn't have a problem with the atrocities being graphically shown (the stripped flesh off the hands, the intestines shooting out of the anus). I realize this is a very unpleasant, disturbing topic that really needs to be graphically depicted to have full impact. My problem is, that the director REALLY killed that cat and there's a big difference between the scenes I discussed. Real____Fake.

I absolutely refuse to see Men Behind The Sun. I'm a long time cat owner and lover and I could never imagine watching such a scene. I saw Cannibal Holocaust but I wish I never did. killing animals for the sake of a film is disgusting and inexcusable, Joe D'amato should be shot.

Poor Joe D'amato...

I know he's not the best director in the world but shooting him is a bit excessive..

I don't remember any animals being killed in Joe D'amato's flicks.

The Italian porn industry would crumble if he was shot :)

Yeah even in his cannibal entry Trap them and Kill them there was no animal snuff stuff (could be wrong since its along time since i seen it)...

I do remember a horse getting 'hassled' in Emanuelle in America and also in Caligula the untold story (was it the same horse, if so it would lead me to believe the horse was complient in both roles) :-)

Silly me, i mixed up Joe D'amato with Ruggero Deodato. I was drunk when I posted that anyways.

OK so you're now saying that Deodato shoule be shot because they killed a turtle on film that they later ate - how is this different than hunters killing and eating prey or even ordering a big Mac..

I'm a vegetarian and have been for 22 years - my beliefs are obviously not as strong as yours (are u a vegan) but I really can't see why the turtle scene is so removed and wrong from any other abuse of animals that are lower on the foodchain than use..

there's also a scene in cannibal holocaust where they slice open the throat of a cute little furry guy, not sure what animal it was. There was also animal killing in Jungle Holocaust, on my copy of Jungle holocaust, there was an intro from the director. He tried to distance himself from the animal killing in that movie and make it seem like the camera crew had did it without his knowledge or something. fucking bullshit lie. I dont necessarily think he should be shot, that was an exaggeration, I'm just not a fan of the guy. I am not a vegan or a vegetarian but I try to eat organic free range meat and I try to stay away from fast food.

It was prolly a muskrat - they always killing those guys in cannibal films..

Ok sorry I thought you were an ALF guy (not that there is anything wrong with that , in principle, but that is that is another debate).

So its ok to kill and eat the meat but not to film it? Is that the problem? Or its wrong to kill cute animals and not ugly ones (like cows) on film?, You know that Organic, free range piece of meat you got from Wholefoods or what ever - you do know someone needed to kill thatfor you , don't you..

I'm a bit confused here..

Personally I'm a vegetarian and I try not to preach but when some one says kill a director (that i like) but yet condone the killing of countless animals in passing for their means then....

whatever I give up. i honestly hate debating stuff on the internet. poke and prod my statements all you like.