Believe me, I wish they were. Big business is ruining this country. :eek:

And now you're changing the subject...


The bottom line is...They're animals...We eat them...If given the chance, many of them would eat US

The predator/prey relationship isn't usually a sweet, happy romance...

It's life

Excuse for changing the subject. :p

But anyways, you seem to want to argue with me. Killing and eating animals is fine in my book, obviously... as a hunter and rancher. You have me mistaken with shady.

My only point was I could see how people like shady could get upset at a film like Cannibal Holocaust. And, in fact, the movie producers were hoping poeple like shady got upset.

Wow, BR- You really have some strong opinions on this one, dont ya? haha

Shady asked if the animal slaughter in the film is real because he personally doesn't like to see animal cruelty and then he just gets pounced on... hahaha

It's not like he was telling us all to be vegans or anything, he just asked about the movie.

Nope...I don't argue...I just state the factsSorry...I just hear a lot of whining about this subject by people who don't seem to have a problem with it in its 'full scope' as long as they don't actually SEE it, or allow themselves to remain blissfully unaware of it when it suits them...Animals are slaughtered by the billions every day, just to feed our various whims, but no one cries foul until they see a dog punched on television...It's fucking ridiculous

I don't know...It's either the ignorance or the hypocrisy (maybe a little bit of both) that gets to me

I know what you mean & I see where you're coming from. And if someone is trying to tell me not to eat meat or wear fur or whatever, I'll be the first to tell them to shut the fuck up & point out where they're hypocritical, but I just never got that vibe out of this thread. Unless I missed something though Shady was just asking if the scenes were legit or not. I almost feel bad for him for incurring your wrath... hahah

It was mostly just the general responses about how people should be sued or even put to death because they're so terrible...When we all contribute to the slaughter of animals, in one way or another...Every day...

I happen to believe that human life is just a little more important than animal life, but I know that not everyone feels this way

And for those who say "But, they did it just for money and that's wrong"...You don't think food costs money?...How about shoes, clothes, wallets...Oh, but that's okay because we WANT those things

Now tell me, "No we NEED food"...yeah, okay...But, do we need $25 per lb filet mignon?...Probably not

Many animals are BRED, just to be slaughtered...Just to make money...It's no different than the exploitation for profit in these films...As a matter of fact, these films didn't even make a small percentage of what is made from the slaughter of animals every day, with other excuses

People are only upset about these films because they can SEE it...What if they could SEE where most of what they consume comes from...Would they be equally upset about it, or just accept it because it feeds their needs?...Do they really think this shit grows on trees?...Know what I mean?

Ohhhhhhhh, okay, now I see where you're coming from on this. Valuing animals over people is ridiculous, but I guess it didn't seem to me like that train of thought entered the conversation until he was (probably already feeling) attacked, but perhaps I'm wrong on that & I don't feel like going back and reviewing the whole thread to figure it out.


In any event, I love eating meat ($25/lb filet mignon sounds delicious right now) and I detest when people try to force their will on others. (I am a smoker too, so believe me I hear it all the time.) I guess I'll just say that Shady probably wouldn't enjoy this film and leave it at that. ;)