I still don't see how The Matrix belongs in the top 100 films of all time, so I'm going to neg vote it too.

Hope you get a bit of time for this thread when you're feeling better.... But don't let things get in the way of your health, or your writing. Get well soon, Lee.

I'm fine with all of then. It does seem a bit early to be talking about The Matrix in the first 10 or 12 films, but I have a feeling once we get down to the 80th and 90th, it's going to look just fine.

I'm all for moving forward, the first Matrix movie was groundbreaking (wasn't on my list though) and changed the way sci-fi movies were received by a general audience. I think it also lent a lot to the shooting of film, especially action films in the future.

V counted Donnie Darko as horror or it definitely would have made my list. An absolutely beautiful film.

I agree with the films. The Matrix, without a doubt, belongs on the list. Maybe there are some flaws in the story, but it does not really matter. It is an all-around amazing film anyway. I am surprised by the hate it has received here.

Good point. At this mark, maybe a film is not on your radar for your top 20, or even your personal top 40, but we're talking about 100. Out of 17 of us, these are the films most agreed upon by the group as a whole. There's going to be an awful lot of films with only 1 vote, with some 60 slots to fill.

Like realdealblues, I personally don't see Once Upon a Time in the West as top 100, but while the story didn't strike me, I can appreciate the film's other qualities -- As one of our members (whom I hope is feeling better soon) said earlier in this thread, "Can't we appreciate a film for it's artistry?". Plus, I understand I'm in the minority with Once Upon a Time's appreciation; but that's OK, people are different, and we're using the benefit of the group.

Personally, The Matrix is decidedly in my top 20 for sci-fi story depth & passion, & technical mastery in cinematography, sound, set, costume, FX, martial arts, etc.

True, but back when we did 100 Years of Horror, it wasn't on the Master List. Interestingly though, the cheesy sequel was.

I'd rather any of the of the Man With No Name films makes the list.

6 are in favor of all films, while 2 have objected to The Matrix and one objection for Once Upon A Time In The West.

I say we put both afore-mentioned films in the backburner (for now) and come back to them when we are debating for the final few slots.

We still have a base of ELEVEN films upon which to build upon, so let's move ahead to the films with THREE nominations each.



The third set of films, which have scored THREE nominations, are:-




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Arguments/objections for/against, if any?

Monty Python and The Holy Grail is hilarious but I wouldn't call it one of the greatest films ever made. I wouldn't include that one.

I really like all those films. So I support passing them all for top 100 films.

I think I know where you're coming from. Holy Grail wasn't on my radar, but yet I quote it and Spinal Tap, and play their audio clips on my radio show often. There's a reason for that. They are at the top of humor film making art form.

Terminator, Back to the Future, Die Hard, and even 12 & a Half Monkeys, Private Ryan, Titanic were not on my radar for best 100 films, either. But reflecting back, I can acknowledge a case for each.