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Kane_Hodder 04-11-2007 08:40 AM

I will say this again, make the film and leave the viewing discretion to the audiences. Its their prerogative, after all they know what the movie is about. Like some of us havent seen/ wont see the Cannibal films due to the rather graphic depictions of it, they will leave such films alone too.

bloodrayne 04-11-2007 09:21 AM

The Pedo stuff just makes me very uncomfortable...When I watch a movie (read a book, etcetera) I want to be entertained, not disgusted and angered...

In IT (the book) and in Delores Claiborne it bothered me...I understand that it was used in Delores Claiborne to show why she had to kill her husband, and why no one really cared that she killed her husband...But, her actions would have been just as justified for the way that he beat her...I didn't see any reason for it in It...I'm pretty sure that Stephen King does this BECAUSE it causes repulsion, he has no qualms about 'killing' kids in his movies, he attempts to elicit as many emotional responses as he can...I'm guessing he sees it as another aspect of 'horror', as it is horrifying...It's just not something many people want to think about

After the first Nightmare On Elm Street, it was obvious that the movies began to shy away from the 'Freddy the pedo' aspect, and turn it into more of a 'Freddy the child killer' thing, as Freddy became increasingly popular, because we can't love a pedo, right?...We tended to just push that out of our minds...Yes, somehow killing kids is better (and easier to deal with) than sexually abusing them

It was also very upsetting in The Butterfly Effect...They could have just as easily chosen some other tragedy

Keep in mind...This is a mother's opinion...

mordrid 04-11-2007 09:56 AM

I find it interesting that pedophile is really the only thing I mentioned that is being discussed. BR, what is your opinion then on the use of necrophilia or beastility in film then.

stubbornforgey 04-11-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 585894)
The Pedo stuff just makes me very uncomfortable...When I watch a movie (read a book, etcetera) I want to be entertained, not disgusted and angered...

In IT (the book) and in Delores Claiborne it bothered me...I understand that it was used in Delores Claiborne to show why she had to kill her husband, and why no one really cared that she killed her husband...But, her actions would have been just as justified for the way that he beat her...I didn't see any reason for it in It...I'm pretty sure that Stephen King does this BECAUSE it causes repulsion, he has no qualms about 'killing' kids in his movies, he attempts to elicit as many emotional responses as he can...I'm guessing he sees it as another aspect of 'horror', as it is horrifying...It's just not something many people want to think about

After the first Nightmare On Elm Street, it was obvious that the movies began to shy away from the 'Freddy the pedo' aspect, and turn it into more of a 'Freddy the child killer' thing, as Freddy became increasingly popular, because we can't love a pedo, right?...We tended to just push that out of our minds...Yes, somehow killing kids is better (and easier to deal with) than sexually abusing them

It was also very upsetting in The Butterfly Effect...They could have just as easily chosen some other tragedy

Keep in mind...This is a mother's opinion...

Nicely put Rayne

Stephen King is a great example.

trx1 04-11-2007 11:40 AM

they need to make a "necromaticpedophile" movie, JUST to piss of these people.

stubbornforgey 04-11-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by trx1 (Post 585994)
they need to make a "necromaticpedophile" movie, JUST to piss of these people.

ironic huh..
ppl will not get pissed off..they will flock to see it
because it would be so contraversial.

PR3SSUR3 04-11-2007 12:28 PM

Which people would you like to see pissed off by your movie about having sex with dead children?

:confused:

Filmed necrophelia only exists as pure fiction and is, for obvious reasons, less offensive than paedophilia. This kind of perversion is also far less common, and has been seen as almost 'exotic' in several films to date.

Bestiality on the other hand is present in a handful of European sex thrillers and extreme underground porn. It's clearly a disgusting act, this inter-species relations, and has become illegal to download in the UK at least. When it briefly rears its head in films like Emanuelle in America I guess, like the animal slaughter in Cannibal Holocaust, it does up the ante of grime and danger in an already very grimy and dangerous film.

ferretchucker 04-12-2007 10:47 AM

i think there are two main things to consider when it comes to paedophilia.

1. By showing scenes of a paedophilic nature in a film with real people in (because it is rather funny in SP, maybe not in others but definetely that because it's SP) the real paedophiles out there will think "Hmmmm, they do it, maybe I can reinact it" or "If my favourite star is doing it, I have a right to".

2. The outcry it will cause from the public would be enormous. Apart from the riots it could cause and all the law suits, it could prevent the release of a lot of films with any sexual nature. Those "safety police" would try and make a law saying films with any sexual nature should be banned.

So although when done on cartoons it may be funny, there shouldn't be any proper scenes even on them. South park did it by showing them in the bed afterwards. Yet again, i don't think it should be left out, but when it comes to showing it, I think implied is better.


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