waste of space.

Do the whole world a favor and abort that fetus, hun.

Such a childish remark. To bad your words dont hurt me :)

no I'm not kidding.

We really don't need any more welfare warriors around.

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Grow up :)

I agree. I love debating and have no problem with it. But if you think refutation is about non-sensical fallacies and generalizations--not even concise arguments, then there's no point.

you have to think about the rest of the world to you know. even though that can be hard, when you have your head so far up your ass that you have shit for brains.


besides come on, I hear abortion can be fun.

It brings out the little kid in you.

I'm pretty sure they are....you on the other hand, it's out in the open. No offense, but at least in terms of intellecually stimulated and consistent to the topic that is. :cool:

I'm not going bankrupt, I have a Costco membership so gas is cheaper for me. :)

Besides, when I went to Canada it was a LOT more expensive for gas and I've been told Europe is worse. I don't think war on terror in itself is a bad idea, the execution was just piss poor, especially toward the end(?).


Hahaha, good stuff. :D

HAHAHAHAHA you think your insulting me but your not. Infact im sitting here laughing at you because you retaliate by insulting me and my unborn child? Then you call yourself mature?? Im alittle confused right now if a picture of a clown saying oh snap makes you that mad then i guess you still must be in diapers. (did da wittle clown scare you?)

you obviously do because I haven't heard an argument from you yet. Why is america so invincible, huh? enlighten me. :)

That pun was priceless, md ! :)

And seriously, I agree. The greatest good for the greatest number---think of it from utilitarianism ethics perspective.

YESSS! finally an argument. :)

The war on terror is a war you can't win though, it's not like going to war with a country you're invading. They're busy killing "suspected" terrorists right now, but that's only the top level there will always be more to take their place. Only know did the US open up talks with the Taliban, it took this long but I think they probably figured out they can't win this the old fashioned way.

You'll always get an argument from me. :)




It's too late now but to really end it focusing on the KNOWN terrorist cells and being less... understanding... would have been the best way to go. Talks won't work over the long haul, and I'm tired of hearing about how war is pointless, seriously. War is a horrible thing and a lot of people suffer when they shouldn't have to but without it we would all be in some serious trouble. We just needed to strike harder, faster, and not get distracted. Sometimes you have to kill a few hundred innocent people to make an omelet.

And it would've be even easier to when if we had a president who sincerely cared about ending the war on terror--not using as a cover up for invading a country we [USA] had no clear reason to be with. If we had a clear leader who didn't put tons and tons of his country's bravest men and women in uniform to combat his own personal interests with he and his daddy's oil companies--and he and daddy's personal interests of spreading United States imperialism across the world--then maybe it would've or should've for that matter ended years ago. Seriously, as strong as the U.S's military is we could've ended this war forever ago; but because Bush may speak in a very ignorant manner--he's no fool--he knew exactly what he wanted--prolonging this war as long as he could to settle his corporate feud--he and his father had and cease ties with business partners--using every unlikely event (including tradegies) as a means to distract his fellow country men and women from disagreeing on his philosophy of putting self before others.

Damn Republicans. :cool:

Again more or less the Utilitarianism philosophy (greatest good for the greatest number--utilizing the best methods to maximize the most pleasure you can over potential pain)

Terror is an emotion, terrorism is a tactic. "War on terror/terrorism" is a metaphor. The people making policy know that. The point is not to eradicate either, but to make terrorism so difficult to carry out against the U.S. that catastrophic terrorism(i.e. 9/11) is effectively impossible. This was never going to be a war waged only militarily - that was said at the outset. We threw the Taliban out of power through a combination of military action and political maneuvering with the various factions in Afghanistan. We also managed to keep Karzai in power through diplomacy and luck, NOT simply by becoming his enforcer.

As it stands, we have a mostly democratic government in Afghanistan and a pro-Western leader there. Al Qaeda has not been able to strike the U.S. directly, though it has struck our allies. Osama remains at large but is his ability to carry out attacks seems greatly diminished. The Taliban is resurgent and this will be a challenge in the coming years.

I feel bad for laughing at the abortion joke. :( :( :(

and I agree with kemal, I also think Osama is very ill/or dead.

[QUOTE=Angelakillsluts;751509]I feel bad for laughing at the abortion joke. :( :( :(



Well to some people abortions funny i guess:mad:

[QUOTE=monster123;751704]It's not that it's funny--the joke was

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I don't necessarily think abortions are funny, but her pun was so clever I couldn't help but smile a little...if that makes me awful so be it.

[quote=Leprucky Cougar;751727]Yea, what she said...

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Wtf what pun am i missing something i dont remember reading a hilarious pun?

Likewise for me

I'm sorry,i think its really not funny.Abortion is so sad and i cannot see humor in it.Sorry if i make anyone mad by saying this...i feel for monster,if someone said that to me i would go straight the fuck off.

OMAN finally! Thank you for seeing it my way :). You truelly are a great person!

I know i might catch hell for it,but i could careless.I hate abortions more than anything in this world.Sorry that was said to you:)

You dont need to be sorry for their childish remarks, it makes me happy someone has enough sense to say "hey thats not funny!" :)

Anytime:)If i don't like something i'm not afraid to say it!!

Did i mention your awesome? :D

How can you beat Terrorism? You can't. There are always going to be those out there that are full of hate and will act on it. You have to defend yourself and be careful but a war was the complete wrong way to go about. Just another chance for the USA to police the world. And our government was retarded enough to get involved. What has it got us? MORE TERRORISTS! They're more pissed off now than they've ever been! Pull the troops out, sit down and talk. It worked with Carter when he got Egypt and Israel to just sit, talk and work things out.

About the abortions - I'm pro choice. I think certain circumstances it can be ok. Such as a Rape victim who is poor and wouldn't be able to give the baby a good life. It's not a pleasant thing but it is sometimes acceptable. I wouldn't want a girl I got pregnant to get an abortion,but she's the one who has to carry it around for 9 months so it's mainly down to her. As for the joke, it was a clever pun.

So you think it's possible to reason with people who want to destroy your nation and are willing to kill themselves and their families just to strike a blow against you? If it "works" you really think that it will stay that way through the long haul? Ah well, let's hope somebody finds a way to stop it no matter what it takes.

As for abortions in rape cases, it's VERY unlikely for a woman to get pregnant from rape due to the amount of stress caused to the body among other things.

There will always be those who won't be reasoned with. War won't change that. But, you can cut down on them by finding out what it is they want, coming to compromises that please both sides. But look at it from some of their points of view. Take Iraq. We went into their country looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction and we turned things upside down! Their barely back on their feet now. Imagine someone like Russia had done that to America! Came in looking for something they never found, killed your leader and some of your closest friends and family! You'd want revenge.

But then, if some smart leader came to power, sat down, spoke with your country about changing things to make your way of life better, you would be grateful and willing to listen. I know I would, and so would many others.


As for children of rape, it is unlikely, but it does happen. I recently learned that one of my closest friends mother was raped several years ago and got pregnant with a girl, but aborted it because it was straining things with her and her husband and it was all too much to bare.

What they want is to KILL US because we don't share the same religious views that they do

So, the 'compromise' would be that we allow them to kill us, or we all decide to convert to the religious views of some insane extremists

Neither of those options that would please THEM, will work for us...I can't imagine how TALKING to them could help when we will NEVER say what they want to hear...So, there will be conflict


I believe that with the passage of years, people have forgotten that we TRIED to 'talk' to Sadam...He refused to comply with UN inspectors for years, they looked the other way, allowing him to do whatever he wanted while stealing UN aid from his people (aid that he shouldn't have been receiving because he wasn't keeping his end of the deal), and killing his people...We gave him MONTHS to let the UN inspectors in...He refused...We warned him for WEEKS that we were serious, and that we WOULD attack...We even gave him the date and the hour!...He STILL refused...If he had nothing to hide, why not let the inspectors in?

Talking did nothing.

Fuck politics and politiians.Its all bullshit all the people are full of shit etc....Glad you had fun!

Uhm that was a opinion that didnt need to be shared..

All opinions are welcome, even those that are negative or oppose our own...As long as people aren't fighting here, it's all good

Feel free to speak your mind :)

Your right I apologize Hilti88NYC. Speak your mind :)

You are majoring in English and write like this? I worry for your students (if you become a teacher) or your clients (if you become a lawyer) or your constituents (if you become a politician).

Sorry to be so nitpicky, but I am one of those teachers who you seem to regard so poorly. (COUGH, COUGH, COUGH:mad:)