Aww, that was sweet, sincere, intelligent AND humorous...See? You guys totally get my point

No wonder I love you guys so much :)

Hey thats cool, I've seen a couple of broadway plays through this job i used to have. I've seen Sweeny Todd(if thats how you spell it, I'm kinda drunk:p ) And I love prolly the gayest broadway play out there, La Cage Aux Folles (yeah not sure on the spelling either). That was the gayest play on broadway, seriously, but in a good way. It was hilarious. Ya know there was this one off-broadway show i wanted to see called Menopause: The Musical, just cause of the name... wow I sound really really gay right now.... but I swear to god I like women. I mean it...lol

that or you could always go with, " I think you look better with it off." That always worked for me.

What Is A Man
Is The Query Of The Day
After A Little Pondering
This Is What I Say

A Man Is Tough
Strong And Bold
Yet Gentle As A Kitten
When Captured In Womans Hold

A Man Is The Hunter
Gatherer Of Lifes Needs
Bringer Of Food
Of Which His Family Feeds

Since The Dawn Of Time
Man Has Done These Tasks
Searched The World Over
For What His Woman Asks

My Poem May Sound Sexist
But This Is Not My Intent
My Woman Is On A Pedastal
She Is Truly Heaven Sent

She Is The Giver Of Life
She Owns My Heart And My Soul
Without Her In My Life
I Would Never Be Whole

A Man Is Many Things
Without Woman He Would Fade
I Should Print This Out And Show Her
Maybe I'd Get Laid

"what makes a man, mr lebowski? is it being prepared to do the right thing? whatever the price? isn't that what makes a man?"

"Sure. that and a pair of testicles."

A Real Man knows he is a far better human because of the Real Woman that stands beside him.



@MTC:That quote is from Total Recall...and I'll be waiting for my 5 cents in the mail:D

Outside of fiction, I have no interest in being "a man" or "manliness." Any definition would almost invariably have to be a blanket ideal, and I don't believe in those. I think just not being a piece of shit should be enough without throwing arbitrary gender-based terminology on it. The old-school "drink and fight and drive a big truck, John Wayne" shit doesn't work for me because I don't like the taste of alcohol, trucks drive like shit, and John Wayne made, what, one or two good movies? I exclude fighting because I'm not all "oh, fighting is just stupid" types. Just don't act like fighting is going to prove anything other than who can fight better. And many of the "new school" ideals either should just be universal "don't be a douche" rules or are double standards? Don't ever hit women? Bullshit. Don't be a wife/girlfriend/woman beater, sure. But if someone is doing something that you would hit them for, reproductive organs shouldn't be the deciding factor. Maybe this is my months-long physically abusive relationship talking, but fuck that "never hit women ever" noise. Out-dated, double standard, SEXIST bullshit.
Back to "what makes a man" question; the only valid answer I can think of is "who gives a shit?"

You all sound like abunch of apron wearing queers, prancing around talking about feelings and shit.


MEN like to beat and kill things, drive big trucks and sports cars. Wear muscle shirts and drink cheap beer. Yell at things and people. Get pissed off when questioned.

Thank god im just a pathetic geek.

a big, tall geek who seems immune to getting picked on for all of the things manly men seem to hate.

I am the cook in the house, because i like to and i am damn good at it. Most "men" dont really grill, they burn shit on expensive bonfires.

I completely agree with anyone who says guys who drive big trucks and harleys, then rev their engines and drive like assholes are tiny-penised little bitches. Deep inside, they are crying because dad or some other role model called them a pussy or a fag one time.

Real men laugh when they get called those things. I usually say, think what you want, if your opinion mattered, i might stick around and listen to it.

[QUOTE=The STE;626091]Don't ever hit women? Bullshit. Don't be a wife/girlfriend/woman beater, sure. But if someone is doing something that you would hit them for, reproductive organs shouldn't be the deciding factor. Maybe this is my months-long physically abusive relationship talking, but fuck that "never hit women ever" noise. Out-dated, double standard, SEXIST bullshit.
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I totally agree. It should be a fair fight. Although I'd get my ass kicked if I unsuccesfully choked a guy. (& I'm not talking about choking his chicken)

Dude, a pissed off woman will slap the shit out of a guy, just start beating and kicking him and hitting him. I've seen it! (drinks)

It's my jimmy, and my balls is his boys.

But seriously...a "man", in my opinion is someone of the male gender (ya think?)
that can conduct himself in a decent, respectful manner, not on the basis of wanting to be perceived a certain way, but because they can see the reflective positivity in life and others by doing so. A person who can be strong without the need to show it to the world, sad without the need to hide it, loving in the way he feels he ought to be - not how others tell him.
A fella that can admit he's wrong, at least some of the time, without finding a counterpoint as to why that makes it all ok.
Someone that will stand by what they feel is right, regardless of the immediate situation it may put them in, a person who will make the same stand on a friends behalf when they cannot.
A person who leads by example.
...and someone who cooks, most importantly.