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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 990661)

What does that even mean, Michael: "it can reverse its current age to a younger age and start aging again"?

Whoever reported, or published, this research, how is age being defined & determined, and how is "reverse its current age to a younger age" being defined & determined?

If that just means an acceleration in free radical elimination, or a slowing in replacement of cells, I most decidedly would not define that as "reversing its current age".

Also if injured jelly fish... live longer, or regains the ability to mate again (or however they are defining 'younger age'), I wouldn't call that "reversing to a younger age".

My current understanding is aging is in the genes, and not in wear-and-tear... which seems obvious now that we know humans replace every cell in the body every seven years, and the fact that life spans among different species of similar sizes and forms have drastically different lifespans. It's never been announced an aging gene has been found, let along understood, so I highly doubt actual reverse aging can be determined in jellyfish.

The jellyfish reverts to its formal stage and starts the aging process anew. I suppose it is not *invincible*---one could stomp on it and it would certainly die---but barring these accidents the jellyfish could live forever. It has a healing power ala Wolverine.

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 990662)

Hi Jake! Can you cite (give a link) to that source?

I would be willing to bet $1000 a human consciousness has not been downloaded to a computer.

The technical functioning of consciousness in the brain is not yet understood (from the lastest TED Talks, & other, research). So such a claim sounds ridiculous. There are approximately 100 billion neurons in a human brain. Each neuron has up to 10,000 synapses (connecting lines) to other neurons. Which means there's as many as 1,000 trillion synaptic connections. Ironically, that being said, computer harddrive space and processing speed aren't the issue -- if one were able to construct a computer, and pseudo-duplicate an individual's brain structure, how would one get it to initiate its own motion (thoughts consciousness)?

In regards to "consciousness", I guess that's dependent on just how loosely someone wants to define 'consciousness'. If any engineer had the nuts to announce such a claim (a human consciousness has been downloaded to a computer), I'd love to see how they define it. It might not be what we call consciousness.

Ill give you a couple of positions, the below link is to the 2045 Initiative. It is run by a Neuroscientist who says that by 2020 he will have finished a full body robot completely controlled by BCI (Brain-Computer Interface). Then by 2025 the group will have created a, they call it an Avatar, that can receive a human brain and in doing so retain all of that person memories and his consciousness effectively making that person immortal, with proper maintenance. Then by 2035 an Avatar with a man maid brain that they will download your brain functions to. The 2045 part of the initiative is to remove the physical Avatar and have the brain stored and an holographic Avatar created.

http://2045.com/

Then there is Bina48, Ill let you read the article but when it come down to it, they continuously upload what they call mind files to the robot and it is able to remember Bina's life, it is able to use her vocabulary, it is able to express emotions. It is the first step to being a fully functional robotic version of the real Bina. The end step this company wants is to be able to upload all of a persons "Mind Files" into a database and have you be able to interact with that person via your smart phone. They are not wanting to make robots that will eventually take over the earth but make on screen Avatars that will be able to continue growing and learning and helping us advance.

http://www.dailydot.com/technology/m...na-mind-clone/

Heavy stuff y'all...My belief is that sorta thing would take us away from our true human self.

I agree, I fear that if we couldn't see a human standing before us it would be to easy to lose compassion. But at the same time, we could just program out the urge to kill or murder and eventually eliminate it. My fear is that reproducing would cease and everyone would just continue living as they are. It would also be easy for the government to deem who gets to live forever and who doesn't. Eventually it would be a perfect race of robots, with our memories but everything that makes us, us would cease. Its scary if you think about it. Its also scary that with how fast the world of science is developing we could just be 50 years from this sort of thing. We may all live to see robots take over the world.

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 990670)

It would also be easy for the government to deem who gets to live forever and who doesn't.

A very short step from where we are today indeed!

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Eventually it would be a perfect race of robots, with our memories but everything that makes us, us would cease. Its scary if you think about it. Its also scary that with how fast the world of science is developing we could just be 50 years from this sort of thing. We may all live to see robots take over the world.

That would be the worst case scenario. But I think it would be kind of cool to be Data or T-1000. Robocop was a badass too. Beats being compost.

It may, but what if the robot part of you takes over and you just have to be there for the ride? It would be like being a vegetable, except with no end in site.

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 990633)

Don't listen to your vegan friends. Paleo is the way to go. Stay the course! Our bodies where designed to operate a very specific way and meat is 100% a huge part of that. The bacteria in your stomach is needed to keep your system healthy. I beg of you, don't go vegan, its not how you where designed.

People in ancient time (before we had all this damned technologies) people lived till they were 900 hundred years old. At least Noah did. Yes I read the Bible. I have my weaknesses. lol

Well we are practically immortal already, are body isnt but our soul is our bodies are but a shell.

I had a dream once that I was in med evil time and that the city I was living in was under attack. I was running through the streets looking for someone and I looked up to see a tower falling over me.

The only thing that I cant remember from this dream was the person that I was looking for.