I'd trade historic at any time for better.

What basis do you have for that claim?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey, Newb, she's a grandparent too - You guys have something in common. ;)

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...7_is_pregnant/

So much for "family values."

That has no place in politics.
Obama's mama was 18 when she had him.

1. The legal age of consent is 18.
2. Conservative right always claims "family values."
3. She's an unwed pregnant 17-year-old.

Des - I agree that this absolutely has no place in politics, but let's be honest here - When you enter the political spotlight, you are willingly subjecting your family to the judgment and criticism of politicians and pundits alike. The conservative right constantly refers to "Family Values" to propagate their support of what is considered traditional moral values (mostly stemming from Christian ideology). The Republicans love righteously pointing out the moral foibles of the Democratic party (Clinton, anyone?). I'd just like to see the conservative right be just as righteous with one of their own.

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BUT THAT WASN'T EVEN MY MAIN POINT! ARGH!

I'm just trying to point out the humor here (slight irony with the nod to family values, but I'm not the angry liberal that I used to be so that's not really that big a deal) and make more of a crack at Newb's and Palin's common familial role (GET IT?! IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE'S A GRANDPARENT - AND SO IS SHE! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA). Granted, it was a periphrastic and not particularly funny joke, I'm not seriously judging nor am I making the argument that this rumor should be the focus of the Obama campaign (I am not that close-minded, narrow-focused or ignorant, thank you very much).

Argh. Maybe I just took your post too personally. I don't like you anymore. We're TOTALLY breaking up. :(

Cool......I feel the bond getting stronger.


perhaps we could feed each other oatmeal whilst watching Lawrence Welk.;)

You're a funny old fucker. :D

Awww don't be mad, I got it, I just like pointing things out.



Like the fact that the age of consent in Alaska is 16.
(Didn't you get my warning when I joined that I am, indeed, an asshole?)
:p



Alaska
The age of consent is 16, provided the older partner is not in a position of authority.


"Sec. 11.41.434. SEXUAL ABUSE OF A MINOR IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

(a) An offender commits the crime of sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree if
(1) being 16 years of age or older, the offender engages in sexual penetration with a person who is under 13 years of age or aids, induces, causes, or encourages a person who is under 13 years of age to engage in sexual penetration with another person;
(2) being 18 years of age or older, the offender engages in sexual penetration with a person who is under 18 years of age, and the offender is the victim's natural parent, stepparent, adopted parent, or legal guardian; or
(3) being 18 years of age or older, the offender engages in sexual penetration with a person who is under 16 years of age, and
(A) the victim at the time of the offense is residing in the same household as the offender and the offender has authority over the victim; or
(B) the offender occupies a position of authority in relation to the victim.
(b) Sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree is an unclassified felony and is punishable as provided in AS 12. 55"



C'mon, don't be sore... :D

We're still broken up.

But it's ok... I'll let you make it up to me... ;)