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_____V_____ 07-14-2010 09:16 AM

Sure! I would love it. :)

Doc Faustus 07-15-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 867336)
Ok, wait, so Monsters DO count? I'm with Straker - I was purposefully avoiding Godzilla, Jaws, Alien because I consider them "Monsters" rather than "Villains" (interesting point that Doc brought up because I just had the Monster/Villain argument with my boyfriend re Mike Meyers - He says he's a Monster. I'm inclined to agree intellectually, but at the same time I think he's a Villain).

I wouldn't say that Jaws or an alligator would count, but Michael Myers is valid because he is an incarnation of evil. He works via concentrated hate. And hate is bad. Aliens and alligators and sharks don't hate and don't have apocalyptic/satanic links. If something exists solely to destroy the earth, it is an agent of evil. It's not trying to eat, it wasn't taken out of its natural habitat, it isn't destroying the earth to survive, it's committing an act of malice. Leatherface I wouldn't put on the ist because he's an unwitting dupe. The real brains of the outfit is The Cook. Monsters can be villainous if they are instinctually committing acts you would call evil for reasons beyond survival.

_____V_____ 07-15-2010 08:59 PM

Very interesting point, Doc.

Come on people...show me your lists!!! We are into the last 2 weeks of the schedule!

The Flayed One 07-15-2010 11:10 PM

I'll have to say, I had a really hard time with this just because of the criteria I set for myself as what a true villain is to me. My list wasn't even 20 long.

roshiq 07-16-2010 01:26 AM

Fully agree with Doc. Evil intentions & doings that all matter to be a villain, not the natural instincts for survival. Most of the poor creatures were out there in wrong time & wrong place, that's just might made them that bad.

_____V_____ 07-17-2010 03:14 AM

Received yours, Flayed. Thanks for the list.

Still waiting for plenty more from all the HDC-ians. Come on people!

_____V_____ 07-21-2010 08:51 PM

A big Thanks to Massacre Man for taking some time out and sending in his list.

69 villains shortlisted so far. Hoping to zero in on 31 more from the pending lists which some of you have promised but haven't sent in yet.

That doesn't mean that those who haven't promised and are reading this cannot send me their lists. Come on people! Let me see those lists!


A point to moot - 3 of you listers have sent in Carrie White as a Horror Villain. What is the general consensus on this dubious entry?

scouse mac 07-22-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 867999)
A point to moot - 3 of you listers have sent in Carrie White as a Horror Villain. What is the general consensus on this dubious entry?


I don't see her as a villain, she's the victim of horrific bullying and a brutal mother. They are the villains IMO, not her.

_____V_____ 07-22-2010 07:43 AM

That's how I see it too. Will be interesting to hear Doc's take on Carrie.

Anyone else?

Doc Faustus 07-22-2010 08:16 AM

Carrie's Mother is the villain in this case. A fantastic villain. Add her.


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