That's simple and cheap. And the reasoning of a dullard.


Nope, just a guy who's not fond of douchebags. Sorry.

No it's really not. Anyone calling a woman a "cunt" and getting this bent out of shape directing the majority of scorn/scorn blame at the woman involved has problems. It's really obvious if you read between the lines "chief".

Well, I suppose I should be spreading it around to you and Posher more as well. I suppose that would make me a homophobe and a "punkophobe" too, wouldn't it?

Nope, just don't like douchebags. Sorry. It's sweet that you would think to play the "misogyny card" for her, though.

No member is deemed a troll unless and until he/she exhibits some sort of trolling behaviour. This place has seen more than its fair share of trolls in the past, and the forum being a ghost town today has nothing to do with new members getting their vanities or egos shot down, or senior members showing trolling symptoms because they want to see some sort of traffic going around these parts. It is like this because we made a hard choice couple of years back - do we need to have resident trolls who posted 200 times a day and got their post counts up to a thousand or ten thousand in no-time with nonsensical things (while indulging in board breaking tactics behind the curtains), or do we have a less-traffic board with fewer contributing members posting?

Needless to say, we chose the latter and kicked all those disruptive elements out. Word got out that trolls weren't welcome in HDC, and it spread rapidly. Since then, the traffic of this place went down by miles.

There were at least four huge waves of trolling within the past 5-6 years which caused many of our fine contributing members to leave the place, some of them quitting the Net entirely. That was the biggest loss HDC has faced. Ever. No amount of new members can cover that loss.

And we had ban-happy Mods too. Allmykids, who returned home drunk one night and banned any and every member she saw in her sight. Kpropain, who repeated that stunt awhile later. It doesn't take long to ban - just a click and you are off - but we take the whole picture into account, especially the afterwards part.

If we chose to ban every "mother-" or "bi-" or "cu-" or "ass-" poster in this site, trust me when I say this, only the Moderators will be left as the remaining active members.

And if that were true, you would have been banned the moment you called MD a "cu-" in the Women As Heroes thread too, Fuglystick. It would have happened anyway if we favored older members like MD. But since it didn't happen, and you are still here, it sends a pretty strong message to you, doesn't it?

We as mods have to take very difficult decisions. We discuss all this in our own private section of HDC (one which is hidden from everyone else's eyes), and the point of you reporting a post from MD has come up, and all of us have been through the said thread. The fact that both you and MD are still here shows that we Mods are still trying to keep the larger picture in mind and seeing if some sort of a truce can be hammered out between all of you.

MD has a high opinion of herself, and so does everyone else. Don't you have a high opinion of yourself and your knowledge in various fields of your life, including horror films? I do, pretty sure Elvis does too, NE has that in vintage horror, cheeba does, Doc Faustus does too in the talents he shows in his writings...its but natural. If you don't hold your own self in some sort of a self-esteem, it's difficult to survive. Behavioural symptoms of real life tend to flow into our online persona too, its a natural thing. At no point has any of us shown arrogance about that, I am sure of it.

We know you are a contributing member, and so is MD. Same goes for Elvis. That is what is saving you at the moment. OMCDave - even when being a good contributor to the Asian Horror section and having the luxury of being a senior member with over 10,000 posts couldn't save him, once his board -breaking tactics came out in the open. So don't think even for a moment that a senior member will not be banned just because he/she is senior - cheebacheeba was banned more than once (unjustly I might add).

People join everyday, and people are welcomed everyday. They then proceed to post around and see what reactions their posts gather from others, which then dictates their presence on a board - whether they choose to stay or go. There are people who joined a long time ago and still have around hardly 100-200 posts - Kemal, Weapon X, etc. You don't see them being flamed or made fun of, do you? Let's take newer members into account. For example, Psycho_d. Did anyone flame him? Nope. Because these are people who know what they are talking about. They are here to discuss horror, so they mainly stick to the Modern, Vintage and Asian Horror sections.

Its not about having balls. Its about having a clear mind and take sound judgements, taking the whole picture into account and thinking about the future. We are Moderators, not Judge Dredds. A definition of Moderation does not include execution on the spot. Its way, WAY different. It is one of the hardest and toughest jobs one can do anywhere - real life or the Net.

I like you, V. You're a valuable poster and a very nice man. I appreciate your lengthy, detailed, and eloquent response. I read it all.

However, lengthy deliberation when action is called for is Nero's concert.

In regards to the Women as Heroes thread, I retaliated, I did not instigate. If I had not retaliated, would you still be deliberating?

And even if it weren't for that thread, would it change the spirit of acrimony on this board?

There's been a lot of talk about the past. What bearing does the past have on members' behavior today? Does a board of fifty trolls in the past make a board of five trolls today acceptable? It doesn't take a lot of trolls to make posting unpleasant, just a few persistent ones.

And what, exactly, does trolling behavior consist of, in the eyes of the moderators? Flaming, belittling, and badgering new members does not qualify? If not, then I don't think the moderation staff should have any qualms about the other, non-belligerent, members informing the new members of their option to put the aggressors on ignore, reassure the new members that the aggressors do not speak for the board, and encourage the new members to enjoy the forums.

Wow, this thread makes me feel a bit bad about my general "douchebaggery" through the last 6 or 7 years. However, I don't feel it is justified to call out MD or Elvis. I'm pretty sure neither of them have ever liked me so i'm not "taking sides" or trying to "feed the fire", I just think this thread is the wrong way to go about things.

You have no idea what things were like when I was in my prime of being a dick. You think MD and Elvis are so terrible? Let me give you a list: Darth Bane, Monsterdad, myself(horace-pinker/sistinas amoung others), OMCdave, drunken Kpro, crazy AMK, Pluto, and I'm sure I've forgottren countless others. You weren't here for "dick pics" and "internet predators". You may think MD and Elvis are terrible members but they don't hold a candle to some of the monsters we've seen here.

On a final note, I've always found MD and Elvis to be amusing with their so called "douchebaggery". They amuse me as well as countless other members, so wouldn't that make them good contributing members?

And on a final note-Jason can kick Freddys ass.;)

And on that note- this topic has run its course.

Closing.