What is wrong with Canada?
 

Re: What is wrong with Canada?
 

i don't understand,are you a canadian upset over seal hunting or an american pointing a finger or another nationality perhaps?the site states that the (killings)or hunting if you prefer are gov. sanctioned.what i want to know is what do they(the gov.)do with the seals...do they eat 'em or what? btw i don't have a promblem with canada,they have some lovely country and the dancers are always friendly.

Here in Australia, we (well...some people employed in rural areas) kill kangaroos. Sucks right?
But, in THIS case, it's more culling than killing, keeping the numbers down to a point, to minimise the impact overbreeding will have on both the species and environment.
Overbreeding eventually effects the quality of life for the creatures as a group, and also, if there is a disease outbreak amongst an overpopulated area, it can become an epidemic, and the carrion can affect our water reservoirs in a huge way.
That's what our govt tells us anyhow...
I'm not saying I'm behind it or anything, just that sometimes, among certain species, "culling" is deemed "neccessary".
I would like to note, that when we kill these kangaroos, it is not done for any financial benefit, the bodies are collected and burned - The reason for this, is that the kangaroos that are farmed to be eaten are free of disease, and a LOT of the time, the wild ones are infested with a number of things, and deemed unfit for human OR domestic animal consumption.
I have to say though...how it's (a shot through the head with a high powered rifle) is a far cry from clubbing an animal to death.

In short, I don't agree with the clubbing method, but would have to know more about WHY it is being done in order to comment on the overall issue any further.

As a general rule, I completely disagree with the killing of ANY creature as recreation, and would only ever consider killing an animal myself if it were a matter of survival, or I intended (and NEEDED) to use the flesh for my own sustenance...however, the local butcher has me covered on most occasions.

Those that kill for sport disgust me.
A murderer is a murderer, regardless of what they kill.
I don't know how a person that has ever done this could live with themselves, and what they've done.

fur

With the sophisticated state of clothes manfacturing nowdays, and the ability to churn out almost PERFECT fur "clones", without any killing, I have to say, that IF this is the SOLE purpose of these killings, I'm against it.
I think only the most selfish fucking assholes buy, and wear real fur. It's disgusting, and I think it should be illegal in every way.

its not the SOLE purpose, they use the meat too

but u can guaranfuckintee that the bulk of the money IS from the fur. food is cheap, but its hella xpensive to clothe Jlo.

Yeah, but if they're only selling off the meat to justify skinning the seals...well, that's pretty low, eh?
I mean, I myself eat some FUNKY out-there kinda stuff...and I don't know a whole bunch of people that chow down on seal meat, eh?

lol yeah right . kangaroos go for about $2.50..a kilo gutted with the head and tail cut off. i know a lot of people who make a very good living off it.except for the moment because of the drought. (a big roo might only weigh about 50 kilos)but never the less. there is money to be made off them there roos. hell all you need is a meat handling ticke and you're off. i enjoy a odd weekend doing it myself... what do you think is in canned dog food? it isnt only horse meat ya know.
p.s i dont know why they cut the tail off. thats the most flavoursome part.. cook it up as you would ox tail soup great stuff. might because of the bones in it.

Only going on what I've heard - I'm from the city.
Your friends sound like dog meat hunters, I'm pretty certain they wouldn't be selling it to any butchers...not ones that meet health regulations anyway, the majority of feral roos ARE all kindsa diseased, not to mention, some are maggot infested...

Agreed on the tail, it IS, as you say, because of the bones...bones always make great soup/stew, not to mention, there IS a decent amount of meat about the tail.
So you eat roo also, huh? Must be nice that fresh...I'd be careful doing it though...

NB: Hunters, and cullers. Two different things

i hate anything to do with seal hunting..
I believe one of the justifications is that they eat the fishermans fish and wreck their nets ..

but to be able to club a baby seal to death ... i have no idea how someone could be capable of that..
a baby anything for that matter.

Personally, Urg...I figured plenty of you Canadian folks would've been against it.
No entirely the most appropriately named thread.

true ...
whats wrong with seal hunters mught be more appropriate..


whats wrong with canadians ..?
well, we dont have much of a national identity - other than 'we're polite' and 'clean'

we're a new country - without many indiginous things we can call our own (the moose and beaver ... big whoop)

the most colourful thing up here is the leaves turning colour in the fall ...

we're boring .. i admit it.


but i'm here to change all that ..

ALL Y'ALL CAN KISS MY MAPLE LEAF LOVIN ASS !!


i'm sorry - i didnt really mean that.

how the fuck could anyone do that? they are so cute!

Ever notice that people will go out of their way to save an animal that is cute, but the hell with something that is ugly.

If they were out there clubbing Platypus no one would say shit.

We have a similar problem in the states, Whitetail Deer in the northern states are coming down with chronic waisting disease, which is a deteriation of brain tissue.

Kind of like mad cow disease.

About 100 miles north of me, the deer population has exploded out of control, because of a lack of management. No hunting is allowed in Cook county, so what happens.

THe deer population explodes, the food supply dwindles, and death and disease take over. Soon enough the Whitetail will be on the threatened list.

A similar thing happened in South Dakota, the prairie dog is now on the threatened list because ranchers had been poisoning them because they destroy cattle ranch land. Instead of allowing hunters to come in and control the population they did this.

I know a lot of folks think animals are cute and all but herd animals need to be harvested for the benefit of wildlife management, without it more problems are created.

I do agree that clubbing seals is barbaric, they should be killed more humanely if it is necessary.

Canada Rocks.... they invented Maple Syrup for my Icecream.

Us canadians are fucked up.

We generally don't care about ugly people either.

I'd like to take a club to any fucker who could hit this little guy.
http://www.evilcripple.com/graphics/seal2.jpg

@Shanks...Vermont has some great maple syrup as well.

well, clubbing ugly people is great batting practice ..



and - i like platypuses - platypi ?

i couldnt kill ANYTHING that wasnt trying to kill me - no exceptions.

i know the hypocracy arguement .. i do eat meat a bit..
but i couldnt kill a cow either ,., i dont have what it takes.

I didn't see anything wrong with it the day and a half I was there. You could've came up with a better thread title instead of taking what a handful of people do and throwing the blame on the entire country which for the most part is full of people who are too nice for their own good.

if you knew my ex-boss .... you'd do a complete 180% on that statement ..

even UGLIER on the inside ....

no some people are extremely ugly - especially when the asshole's personality has physically manifested itself.

yeah, you dont hear me saying all americans are murdering racist fat pigs stuffing mcDonalds down their faces.

you dont hear me saying it :D

exactly, I mean you don't hear me saying all canadians are hockey loving,moose screwing,syrup sucking crappy filmmakers but you don't hear me saying it.

i only ever screwed one moose !!!


ok .. 2


we actually make some decent films up here - but no one ever gets to see them.
We certainly have the talent .. they just all head south where the $$$ is.

Well, it's not like your going to do any noticeable damage right?

but those seals are way too cute. :mad:

True that!
I'm not even going to click the link in fear that I may see them being picked up and slammed into the concrete, like I did in the fur farm thread:(

Yeah, seals ARE cute! Look at this adorable fella'.
http://www-sci.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/meh...phant_seal.jpg

He's definatly an interesting fella

I once saw footage of an elephant seal attacking a car.

Brilliant.

OK, they can club that one all they want.

Fuck that, I love elephant seals. I saw somethin' on Real TV where a skydiver parachuted down onto a beach on top of an elephant seal, and the thing just went apeshit on him, knocked him around pretty good.

That skydiver should have tried clubbing it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...mot-eng101.gif

i'd give money to see that ...

there's your extreme sports pal ...

next week tad is going to hang glide into a tank of starving sharks.


(with fricking laser beams on their heads)

FINALLY ! some good Canada hating !!

I love it when we get noticed !

wouldnt you be unhappy if you lived in an igloo all year round ...
and of course we're hackers .. we have to hack through the ice to get at them baby seals !!!

never been there...they have made "My Bloody Valentine" though

Very true....urgeok is the most angry and unhappy poster we have here.BOO HISS CANADA

here's the last one i personally got ... son of a bitch was hard to hold down .. he kept running away and i had to use up all my smelt to lure him back..

but his blubber kept my wife 'ook-ook' and our kids 'grock-ack' and 'wilson' fed for 3 weeks !

lolhahahahah....ook ook...grock-ack
priceless...you angry unhappy Canadian.


looks like you beat that one in the face

oh shit man, i wasnt going to go there !! hahaha

I actually like Seal :)