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Dr.Kelvinstein 01-18-2004 07:33 AM

What are everyone's favorite non-horror movies...
 
I didn't want to offend horror purists so I put this one down here under Indies where it seems only the true film geeks tread (or would that be "thread"?).

My FAVORITE movie of all time is Eastwood's The Unforgiven, and I love everything by Sergio Leone. I also really, really like Bloody Sam, especially The Wild Bunch and the UNCUT Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid--but I can watch anything he did, even Convoy.

Other stuff I dig: Rolling Thunder, Emperor Of The North Pole, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Ride With The Devil, Shane, Taxi Driver, anything by Walter Hill (especially Southern Comfort, The Warriors, and The Long Riders), The Searchers, all the Mad Max movies (great title, too; think about it--is Max mad "angry" or mad "insane"), Django and just about any other spaghetti Western that isn't just really horrible.

My favorite moments caught on film are the three-way gunfight at the end of The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly and Will Munny's vengeance ride into Big Whiskey at the end of The Unforgiven.

"I don't deserve to die like this; I was building a house."

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 07:44 AM

You're in good company Dr. K.

My favorite non-horror films of all time:

The Boondock Saints (the best ever)
The Warriors (CAAAAAAAAN YOU DIG IT!!!)
Reservoir Dogs
True Romance
Very Bad Things
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Chopper
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Donnie Darko
The Street Fighter (the Chiba one)
Drugstore Cowboy
Julian Po
Heathers
Swingers/Made
The Experiment
Carlito's Way
Easy Rider
Equilibrium
Fist of Legend
Narc
Killing Zoe
Shock Corridor
Platoon
The Usual Suspects
The Way of the Gun
and The "motherfuckin" Boys Next Door.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-18-2004 07:59 AM

Wow, I dig everything on your list, especially Narc and Platoon (I forgot to put that one on my list), and I forgot to mention how much I love Brian Depalma, but you gave him some props with Carlito's Way. We also both included an Ang Lee movie. I too thought Euilibrium was cool and can't believe the studio didn't give it a bigger push (or at least A push). I loved Boondock Saints and just wish it had had a bigger budget. The guy who wrote it made a killing; Mirimax even bought him the damn bar where he worked.

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 08:07 AM

You have a great list as well. I like everything on there...that I have seen. Hehe. You've got a few on me. I especially dig the Mad Max films. Best road movies ever made. Have you heard rumors of the fourth one: Fury Road? And of course, Eastwood westerns are the shit. And Walter Hill makes the best "normal" action movies. I even liked Last Man Standing.

As for Equilibrium, I too was surprised that the studio majorly fucked up.

I love the Saints with a passion. That movie was just right on the money for me. I hope the sequel can live up. I didn't know that bit of trivia about them buying the bar he worked at. Pretty cool.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-18-2004 11:34 AM

The Boondock Saints thing was a big stink back when it happened. The guy who wrote it was a bartender, had never read a script before so really even had no idea how to format one. So, he located and read a script, then checked out a type writer from the library, sat down and wrote Boondocks. Now this was right after Pulp Fiction and every studio was looking for a hip new guy with a humble background and who wrote witty dialogue whom they could market as the next Tarantino. Seems they thought the Boondocks guy fit the bill and bidding war ensued. I forgot what he finally got for the script, but it was at least a million bucks---plus a contract to direct five movies, and the studio (Miramax, I think) bought and gave him the damn bar where he worked. Now years pass and the script keeps bopping around from director to director, and suddenly it's post Matrix and no one gives a damn anymore about smart, witty crime movies. Blockbuster Films buys a bunch of unproduced scripts from the studios, and Boondocks was one of them. Wow! How's that for a strange story? The bad thing is that it killed the spec script market for all first-time writers. After the Boondocks fiasco, Hollywood generally doesn't show much interest in orignal, indie-type scripts from new guys. I remember this because I had just finished a crime/road-movie script that I thought was rather clever, but quickly realized the only way after Boondocks to get something like that made wass to do it yourself.

Last I heard about Fury Road was actually CNN of all places. Contracts were signed and everything was ready to go, George Miller directing from a script he claimed took him 15 years to write, and Gibson was reportedly getting a 30 million---the most any actor has ever got from one movie. But it was going to be filmed in Kuwait and pre-production was shut down when it became obvious we were going to invade iraq. Now Gibson is working on his twelve-hour movie about the life of Christ, so I'm guessing it'll be a while before we see Fury Road.

The movie I really wanted to see was the third Conan movie, Conan The King, written and directed by my boy John Milius. He had finished the script and was set to go when ass-clown Arnold ran for office instead of admitting that his action career was suffering and no one was going to pay 8 bucks to see him blow stuff up anymore. I read in a movie magazine a few months ago that the Wachowski bros (however you spell their names) own the rights to Conan and are planning at least one R-rated anime-type STV Conan movie to be released later this yr. If that does good, then maybe we'll see The Rock playing Conan in a different Milius-scripted Conan movie. Sounds cool...but I would have loved to seen Milius' take on the aging Conan.

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 11:52 AM

I too heard about them post-poning Fury Road but I thought Mel finished his Christ movie. I saw a trailer for it the other day. Is he doing another one???

I wanted to see a new Conan film, but the more I think about it the more I think they should leave it alone. Arnold just hasn't been Arnold lately. I don't think he's been Arnold since True Lies. And the stuff I'm hearing about either The Rock or Triple H is just terrible. I also wanted to see Conan as king. Never heard about the Wachowski brother's doing a Conan though. Interesting.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-18-2004 11:56 AM

Last I heard, the print of the Christ movie that Gibson has been showing around (to the Pope!!!!) was all that he could afford to film right now. He supposedly got a trailer and some other stuff together in hopes of getting more money so he can finish it.

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 11:58 AM

I think it's coming out in February though.

You can already pre-order the DVD. Haha.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...576251-0406421

Ritualistic 01-18-2004 12:31 PM

Here are my list of non horror movies..

spaceballs
the villian
national lampoons vacation
angel

okay tired will add later.. haha

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 02:15 PM

I forgot my love of John Woo and Fight Club in my earlier list.

Ritualistic 01-18-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by avenger00soul
I forgot my love of John Woo and Fight Club in my earlier list.
I love Fight club... awesome and original movie too..

I am a big fan of Christopher Walken so I love most of his movies ..

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 02:31 PM

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I am a big fan of Christopher Walken so I love most of his movies ..
Walken is great too. Love Suicide Kings, Pulp Fiction ("So I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal...up my ass...for 2 years.), True Romance, The Dead Zone, and The Poolhall Junkies.

Ritualistic 01-18-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by avenger00soul
Love Suicide Kings, Pulp Fiction ("So I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal...up my ass...for 2 years
LOL I absolutely love Pulp Fiction... Suicide kings is one of the top 10 best movies of all time... I love walken in general.. the fat boy slim video is great.. and I love when he is on SNL

avenger00soul 01-18-2004 02:50 PM

His and Alec Baldwin's SNL episodes are the best.

Ritualistic 01-18-2004 03:26 PM

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His and Alec Baldwin's SNL episodes are the best.
I definately I agree with that

Sam The Egg 01-18-2004 08:15 PM

I'll just post my list again
http://ravenbomb.250free.com/STEgreatestmovies.html

Not on the list, but also great:
Equilibrium
Boondock Saints
Jesus' Son
Aliens
Adaptation

buddy 01-19-2004 04:09 AM

hmm i guess andrei tarkovsky's movies really smacked me upside the head

- stalker
- solaris

for me, they're fairly deep and at times incomprehensible. but even when that happens, you still feel you're watching something amazing, especially stalker

- vertigo
- god told me to
- permanent midnight

..are others i'd add without thinking myself to sleep here

mudsliptones 01-19-2004 05:11 AM

to many, i have to many

I love movies, most of all horror, but damn, action, thriller, comedy



some favs

everything from tarantino
clockwork orange
true lies
the rock
matrix
devil's advocate
godfather
starship troopers
nightwatch
mission impssible, first one
apt pupil
bio dome

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 06:27 AM

Dr. K, Rolling Thunder was on last night while I was flipping through channels. I remembered it being on your list so I watched it. Not bad. One question: Could Luke Askew's hat get any freakin' bigger? Hehe.

Right after that The Master of the Flying Guillotine came on. Awesome flick. Good night for movie watching I suppose.

buddy 01-19-2004 07:28 AM

jeez how could i forget

2001
how to get ahead in advertising
waiting for guffman
spinal tap
apocalypse now

KRUGERKID13 01-19-2004 08:59 AM

Reservoir dogs
gangs of new york
pirates of the carribiean
saving prvt ryan
boondock saints
pulp fiction
true romance
kill bill
encino man (anything pauly shore)
clock work orange
gremlins
stand by me
chicago (dont knock it till yove seen it)


all very awsome movies and i reccomend them to all.

mudsliptones 01-19-2004 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
Reservoir dogs
gangs of new york
pirates of the carribiean
saving prvt ryan
boondock saints
pulp fiction
true romance
kill bill
encino man (anything pauly shore)
clock work orange
gremlins
stand by me
chicago (dont knock it till yove seen it)


all very awsome movies and i reccomend them to all.

encino man was pretty hilarious
I saw it again after a few years and it still ruled

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddy

MichaelMyers 01-19-2004 10:09 AM

Scarface

Rebel Without A Cause

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-19-2004 10:51 AM

Man, Avenger, I LOVE Rolling Thunder!!! I recorded it last night becasue the print shown on cable looks better than all three video copies I have!!!! What did you think about that gunfight in the whorehouse??? It's probably my favorite screen gunfight. And it was even written by Schrader, the same guy who did Taxi Driver a few yrs later.

The next time you see an old movie that Tarantino owns the rights to, something like Switchblade Sisters or The Beyond, check out the Rolling Thunder Films logo. It even has Devayne's hook hand!!!

Yes, Luke Akew was definitely stylin' and profilin'.

I too love Master Of The Flying Guilotine, and I'm not even a fan of kung fu movies.

Ever see Sister of Street Fighter? I liked that one, too. It was full on exploitation.

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Dr.Kelvinstein
Man, Avenger, I LOVE Rolling Thunder!!! I recorded it last night becasue the print shown on cable looks better than all three video copies I have!!!! What did you think about that gunfight in the whorehouse??? It's probably my favorite screen gunfight. And it was even written by Schrader, the same guy who did Taxi Driver a few yrs later.

The next time you see an old movie that Tarantino owns the rights to, something like Switchblade Sisters or The Beyond, check out the Rolling Thunder Films logo. It even has Devayne's hook hand!!!

Ever see Sister of Street Fighter? I liked that one, too. It was full on exploitation.

We were probably watching it at the exact same time then. I knew Tarantino's label was called Rolling Thunder but I didn't know it was inspired by it. Very cool. The end gun-fight was great. It's not my favorite screen gun-fight, but was damn good. Tommy Lee J. looked so happy to be there.

Whore: "What are you doing?"
Tommy Lee: I"m going to kill people."

Devane was great in it too.

I have seen ALL of the Street Fighter movies. Like the original the best.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-19-2004 11:16 AM

That was my favorite line in the whole movie, and when Devane says, "Don't call my kid 'runt'." How can you not love that!!!

I always wanted to see the Street Fighter movies but could never find them, then after the reference in True Romance, every indie video label out there was throwing out a copies. I picked up the boxed set some co. released (Rhino, maybe) and it was very cool---even in widescreen, a rarity for those days.

So WHAT is your favorite screen gunfight? I'm a sucker for gunfights, and I generally prefer realism and chaos over John Woo theatrics (but I do love Heroes Shed No Tears---it's gotta be inspired by Anthony Dawson).

Here's some of mine:

The Year of the Dragon
Carlito's Way
Untouchables
The Outlaw Josey Wales (both with the commancharos and again against the redlegs)
The Long Riders
The Wild Bunch
Ride The High Country
Gunfight at the OK Corral
Shane
Taxi Driver
Way of the Gun
Winchester 73
BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 11:23 AM

Haha. I do love the theatrics of John Woo. The goddamn doves flying around amidst a thousand bullets in a church is just too damn cool for words. My fav. shootout has got to be the hospital scene in Hard Boiled or the falling from the ceiling in Boondock.

"On TV you always have that guy that jumps over the sofa..."

More realistic gunfights would have to be the beginning of Carlito's Way, the end of Way of the Gun, many parts in True Romance, and the end of The Salton Sea. Those are the only ones that I can think of right now. Oh yeah, the entire Quick and the Dead movie. Hehe.

The_Punisher 01-19-2004 11:31 AM

Anything kevin Smith did
Star Wars Movies
Terminator Series
Ridley Scott films
Anything by Paul Verhoven
many more

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 11:54 AM

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Haha. I do love the theatrics of John Woo. The goddamn doves flying around amidst a thousand bullets in a church is just too damn cool for words. My fav. shootout has got to be the hospital scene in Hard Boiled or the falling from the ceiling in Boondock.

"On TV you always have that guy that jumps over the sofa..."

More realistic gunfights would have to be the beginning of Carlito's Way, the end of Way of the Gun, many parts in True Romance, and the end of The Salton Sea. Those are the only ones that I can think of right now. Oh yeah, the entire Quick and the Dead movie. Hehe.

Gunfights cont. The ends of L.A. Confidential, Leon, and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. And how could I forget about Assault on Precinct 13????

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-19-2004 11:58 AM

I just flat out forgot about LA Confidential and Assault On Precinct 13---two of my favorite movies!!!! James Ellroy is crazy. Ever read any of his crime novels?

I particularly like the scene in Assault where they use the table as a shield and push it down the hall fighting baddies over its edge. Clever.

Did you like Ghosts of Mars? I liked it, but everyone else seemed to hate it. I thought Desolation Jones was one of the best screen names ever.

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 12:02 PM

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I just flat out forgot about LA Confidential and Assault On Precinct 13---two of my favorite movies!!!! James Ellroy is crazy. Ever read any of his crime novels?

Did you like Ghosts of Mars? I liked it, but everyone else seemed to hate it. I thought Desolation Jones was one of the best screen names ever.

I've never read any crime novels. I don't stray far out of the horror genre when it comes to books.

All Ghosts was, was a remake of Assault. So how could I hate it? It was Desolation Williams BTW, but I still prefer Napoleon Wilson. Also, I posted my other favorite gunfights above, I don't know if you saw them though.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-19-2004 12:10 PM

My favorite Woo gunfight would be the end of Killers. It's also my favorite Woo movie. Woo even stuck a dove in Hard Target???? Remember the scene in HT when Van Damm knocks out a snake? WTF? I bet the foley guy had a hard time coming up with the proper sound effect. What does a fist striking a snake sound like, anyway?

Have you seen SWAT yet? They're going through the shooting range, and a guy tells Samuel Jackson that he forgot to roll. Big Sam says, "Rolling is for John Woo movies. You don't do that shit in real life." Funny reference.

(Oh well--I like Desolation Jones better; has more of a Western ring to it.)

avenger00soul 01-19-2004 12:13 PM

Hahaha. Hard Target (along with Cyborg) is one of my favorite guilty pleasures. If Van Damne wouldn't have starred in it, I have a feeling that it would be more of an action classic. Henrikson and Vosloo were badass in it. What does a fist hitting a snake sound like?

Haven't seen SWAT yet, but that is a good reference.

Dr.Kelvinstein 01-19-2004 12:52 PM

Also wanted to mention the violent Western Ulzana's Raid directed by Robert Aldrich and starring Burt Lancaster. Anyone seen this little gem? Nice anti-Vietnam film disguised as a Western, with the Indians standing in for the Viet Cong. No heroes in this one. The cavalry are obviously a bunch of racist morons, and the Indians are simply savage. They even cut out a guy's heart and toss it back and forth. At the very first of the movie, a woman thinks a soldier is coming to save her from an Indian attack, but instead he shoots her to so the Indians can't rape her. Then after his horse is wounded, he puts his pistol in his mouth and blows off the back of his head. Then the Indians laugh while mutilating their bodies. Horror fans would definitely like this, and it's more shocking than any Italian cannibal movie.

avenger00soul 01-20-2004 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by buddy
how to get ahead in advertising
Just got done watching it. Pretty good, thought maybe it should have ended after the other personality took over.

buddy 01-20-2004 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by avenger00soul
Just got done watching it. Pretty good, thought maybe it should have ended after the other personality took over.
haha i can't believe you went after this one avenger00, too funny! glad you liked it, yea it drags a bit when they get into that tent towards the end if i remember. still a sneering boil with a moustache is always good for a few laughs eh? jeez that's it, i'm renting wicker man this week!

avenger00soul 01-21-2004 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by buddy
haha i can't believe you went after this one avenger00, too funny! glad you liked it, yea it drags a bit when they get into that tent towards the end if i remember. still a sneering boil with a moustache is always good for a few laughs eh? jeez that's it, i'm renting wicker man this week!
Believe it or not it came on TV. I'm having tremendous luck with The Flix Channel this week. It's been showing all these exploitation films Dr. K has been talking about and it showed How to get Ahead...Awesome channel. You're right about the mustache wielding, French-speaking, ketchup loving BOIL. Great for a laugh. Hope you have with the Wicker Man.:D

Sam The Egg 01-21-2004 05:50 PM

added Pi to the list. Great movie

Killer Clown#1 01-21-2004 06:09 PM

Spider-Man
South Park the movie
Terminator 1-3
Rambo 1-3
Star Wars 4-6
Jurassic Park 1-3
Mortal Kombat
Ghost Busters 1-2

Killer Clown#1 01-21-2004 06:09 PM

And almost every comedy movie:D


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