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Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 08:56 PM

interesting moral question
 
Quote:

.....Your highest Spiritual Being came to you, and offered you these three things:
Immortality
Peace around the world
To become God himself
However he/she would only give you these if you'd brutally murder your loved one. And wehn I mean brutally murder, I mean like burning, rape, slashing, etc.. So what would you do?

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 08:58 PM

Sorry lover, you're toast.

Anyway, if I was God afterwards, I could just forgive myself for my sins, and resurrect my loved one.

I BEAT THE SYSTEM.

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:01 PM

I'd do it easily. I'd be fucking GOD! I could easily bring the friend back to life

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:02 PM

So where's this Supreme Being? I wan an offer like that :(

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

it's hypothetical

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:03 PM

Smash my hopes and dreams why don't you.

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:07 PM

I'll do more than that! I'll give you what's for!

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I'll do more than that! I'll give you what's for!
LIEK NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Dat hurted :(

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:08 PM

Smashing! No, start smashing things! *smash!* Perfect! It's curtains for you, Ming vase!

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Ming vase!
BANANA BOMB!

bloodrayne 03-02-2004 09:26 PM

I would never even contemplate such a thing...Ressurection or not, I would never hurt anyone that I love...Even for a minute...NOTHING would be worth it

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:27 PM

Not even if the one you loved was planning on hurting you?

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:27 PM

They'd be better off afterwards. I mean, I would want proof, and a 30 day trial first, cause I'm no idiot. But if it was completely on the up-and-up, logistically it'd be dumb NOT to.

DarkwingMantis 03-02-2004 09:29 PM

Well. Ive had this convo with my ex... if they kept comming back.... to hell with it. Yeah I brutally murder them for a lark!!!

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:30 PM

Why would you even need the other two options? If you were God, you could make them happen anyway.

Where'd you find this faulty question? :p

bloodrayne 03-02-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
Not even if the one you loved was planning on hurting you?
Actually, I don't believe that was part of the original premise...However, if you are just asking personally...NO, I would not...No matter what

Sam The Egg 03-02-2004 09:34 PM

I got it off an anime board.

Once again, the person would be better off afterwards if you did it

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:34 PM

Well, it wasn't part of the original question.

Although, you said you'd never hurt the one you loved, so I posed a question to see if I could find out if it were true.

But then again, I don't believe that anyone truly knows what they'd do in any high stress situation.

For example, if a killer came into your house, you can say you'd protect your children first over your own life, and your wives, but you don't know. You can't make a judgement like that until it really happens. The combination of stress, adrenaline, etc... You just don't know what you'd do until it actually happened.

bloodrayne 03-02-2004 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
if a killer came into your house, you can say you'd protect your children first over your own life, and your wives, but you don't know. You can't make a judgement like that until it really happens. The combination of stress, adrenaline, etc... You just don't know what you'd do until it actually happened.
In a situation such as you have described, it may be difficult to think clearly...In such situations instinct usually prevails...It is a mother's natural instinct to protect her children first, even over her own life

Rotting Eye 03-02-2004 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
In a situation such as you have described, it may be difficult to think clearly...In such situations instinct usually prevails...It is a mother's natural instinct to protect her children first, even over her own life
That was only one example. Pick any example from an unlimited array where you're probably not thinking clearly.

Which is my point... Until you're in a limited, high stress environment like that, you don't know what you'd do.

bloodrayne 03-02-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
That was only one example. Pick any example from an unlimited array where you're probably not thinking clearly.

Which is my point... Until you're in a limited, high stress environment like that, you don't know what you'd do.

I still believe that, no matter what the situation...
Instinct=Protect your children

predfan 03-02-2004 11:36 PM

in answer to the original question i would kill my loved one in order to get the powers. then i would ressurect them, and use my power to do things for myself and my loved ones. then help the world if i have time :) :)

Unit 03 03-02-2004 11:52 PM

Heres a mind tickler from Descartes

Everything you know, is gained from knowing that it (whatever you know) is clear and distinct, but what if your mind is decieving you into believing that knowledge is clear and distinct, when in actuality it isn't.

Descartes-" that can't happen because god would not allow me to be cevieved when I am using my mental faculties properly, since god gave them to me to use for aquiring knowledge (clear and distinct ideas)

How then can you be sure that god exists, what are your clear and distinct ideas.


His answere was "because I have a clear and distint reason that god exists."

Highlight for his answere, but be aware its a Cartesian Circle.

Rotting Eye 03-03-2004 01:11 AM

.... I think, therefore I pwn you.

Unit 03 03-03-2004 01:43 AM

Actually, that is a famous Descartes quote, but most people don't know who said it.

RE I think we all know that when it comes to me, you get
http://www.texasmartialarts.net/bruticus2.jpg

Haunted 03-03-2004 05:03 AM

Unit 03, I had to study Des Cartes in my Religious Studies classes. I hate his logical notions, because they're boring and stupid. I mean, hell, the man thought the soul resided in the petuitary gland. That question only works if you're JudeoChristian, anyway. In my world, nothing's promised, nothing is totally secure. Besides besides BESIDES, as someone who is mentally ill, fuck it. I don't really have "clear" and "distinct" ideas.

However Des Cartes would say that my illness, especially mental, stems from my disconection with "God."

Rayne, I agree with you totally. I could not, under any circumstances kill my loved one, even to become a Goddess. The Morrigan is doing an excellent job, Herself, anyway.

Vodstok 03-03-2004 05:50 AM

Descartes was a schmuck. But then, so are most philosophers anyway. They tend to leave out the "I think..." before telling you how the world works.

ChaoticMinister 03-03-2004 06:08 AM

"Cogito Ergo Sum" - I think, therefore, I am.

The original quote from Reneé Descartes.

I have heard of two variations:

"Cogito Ergo Sum Atheos" - I think, therefore, I am without God (or "an Atheist")

And I created my own:

"Cogito Ergo Sum Doleo" - I think, therefore, I am in pain.

*FADE OUT*

Darth Bane 03-03-2004 06:38 AM

I would do it for free.

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 06:46 AM

Immortality would probably suit me, but, since its "the loved one" case, it's gonna have to be the CheebaGod thing.
Unless I read the small print,
and the "resurrection of brutally murdered loved one" was something that I, being a "Murderous god" wasn't "entitled" to.]
ps - Pwned?

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 06:55 AM

Bloodrayne....you probably saw this comin' from me...
EVEN if they wanted to shove rusted-up nails in yer eyeballz?

Haunted 03-03-2004 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by cheebacheeba
Bloodrayne....you probably saw this comin' from me...
EVEN if they wanted to shove rusted-up nails in yer eyeballz?

Dude,....OW!! That is a mental image that I would prefer to do without. Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick!

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 09:10 AM

I may as go all the way and say " after having your eyelids sliced off with a scalpel ,splashed with a solution of methylated spirits /caustic soda, being tied to a deckchair, facing up towards the sun for a day, and just as night falls, having your eyeballs scoured with a cheese grater"

Haunted 03-03-2004 09:14 AM

The eyelids slashed off with the scalpel did me in.


You suck. :D

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 09:15 AM

Hey, It would be pretty fucked up, dontcha think.....just imagine now how the eyeball being "grated" from a first person view would look, do ya think the shit'd like, rip chunks outta your vision @ first? I think Id't have to look kinda funky if I gotta admit it...painful funky....shit - the painfunk experience!

Haunted 03-03-2004 09:22 AM

I don't think you'd be able to see a whole lot after that initial grate tears off your visual tools. You're right, though, to see it coming towards your eye, knowing that it's going to hurt you...a lot.

Also, after the painful experience of having your eyelids removed, blood would be running in your eyes, and also, you wouldn't be able to blink out anything. So before the person started grating away your eyes, they would already be really really sore.

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 10:05 AM

Do you think some rising voltage applied to the eyeballs surface could eventually make the eyeball explode?
if you can avoid it at this point, try not to imagine the fp "visuals" on that...probably can't, huh? yep...that's probably why I said it...heh-heh-heh....

Haunted 03-03-2004 10:09 AM

Exploding eyeballs!!! Yuck! Can you imagine the sensation of voltage to your eyeballs?? That would feel so weird, especially sense your eyeballs are like jelly. They'd wiggle...until they exploded...and they'd probably get really hot too...and then pop....imagine the sound. Stop it Cheeba!

cheebacheeba 03-03-2004 10:17 AM

something like a raw egg being thrown at a wall maybe?
hey the wigglevission would just be, and look fucked up, while it lasted...kinda like wearing prescription glasses (or wrong prescription glasses) and resting your chin on a jackhammer, that is, before the eyes hard boiled or again, the explosion theory.
Dunno if I'm done quiet yet....

Haunted 03-03-2004 10:26 AM

I wonder if you'd see the first bit of your eyes exploding or would they be to burnt. Hey, I wonder what cooked eyes smell like. Actually they'd just start to run. I wonder if you'd you'd see the first bit of that or if the optic nerve would just be totally fucked. Imagine feeling the hot liquid of your eye juice running down your face.

I like wigglevision...but it be more like hot smokey waves?


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