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roseyred 04-29-2009 12:10 AM

Best/Worst Remakes.
 
Im not sure if this thread should go here or somewhere else but here goes..

In your opinion what are the best and worst remakes ever made. Also what are the movies youd love to see remade?

Best:
Psycho.(98)
The Fly. (86)
Invasions of the Body Snatchers(78)

Worst:
The Haunting (99)
The Amityville Horror (05)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (03)
Black Christmas(06)
The Wicker man (06)

Im not sure theres any movies id love to see remade. If i think of some I will definatly post them
Just keep in mind these are my opinions.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 04-29-2009 12:15 AM

please change your avatar

roseyred 04-29-2009 12:15 AM

pee wee freak ya out?

scouse mac 04-29-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by roseyred (Post 803377)
Im not sure if this thread should go here or somewhere else but here goes..

In your opinion what are the best and worst remakes ever made. Also what are the movies youd love to see remade?

Best:
Psycho.(98)
The Fly. (86)
Invasions of the Body Snatchers(78)



This will prob be moved to the movies section




I thought the psycho remake was completely pointless, shot for shot the same as the original but with weaker actors. That said the Bodysnatchers and Fly remakes are good shouts, imo ;)

There is another Bodysnatchers version made in 1993 with Gabrielle Anwar well worth checking out.


The Thing is one of my fav remakes, and Ive also got alot of time for the Night of the Living Dead remake mainly because the Barbara character is a much stronger one.

missmacabre 04-29-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by roseyred (Post 803381)
pee wee freak ya out?

corporate starbucks might be freakier to MD lol



As for remakes.

I agree with The Fly being good. Also, I actually liked Rob Zombie's Hallowe'en. I just find movies with rednecks scary.

I refused to see the remake of Black Christmas because I am such a big fan of the original and couldn't stand to see it ruined.

roseyred 04-29-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scouse mac (Post 803383)
This will prob be moved to the movies section




I thought the psycho remake was completely pointless, shot for shot the same as the original but with weaker actors. That said the Bodysnatchers and Fly remakes are good shouts, imo ;)

There is another Bodysnatchers version made in 1993 with Gabrielle Anwar well worth checking out.


The thing is one of my fav remakes, and Ive also got alot of time for the Night of the Living dead remake mainly because they have the Barbara character is a much stronger one.

I had a feeling it would be moved.

I cant believe i forgot to mention Night of the Living Dead! I agree making barbra a stronger character made that movie better in my eyes.

I will definatly check out the 93 version thank you.



Missmacabre:

I didnt want to see that remake because im a fan of the original but a old boyfriend made me watch it with him. It pissed me off so bad how they totally demolished the original in everyway.

_____V_____ 04-29-2009 12:27 AM

Best remake imo would be JC's The Thing.

For the post-2000 era, Snyder's Dawn of the Dead, followed by Raimi's Ju-On: The Grudge.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 04-29-2009 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by roseyred (Post 803381)
pee wee freak ya out?

ya, sorry. :p

roseyred 04-29-2009 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 803390)
ya, sorry. :p

Its okay i figured it would freak someone out that is a scary picture. My new ones alittle better eh :)

roshiq 04-29-2009 12:42 AM

Best:
  1. John Carpenter's The Thing
  2. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
  3. Dawn of the dead
  4. Willard
  5. The Hills have Eyes


Worst:
  1. Psycho
  2. The Amityville Horror
  3. The Omen
  4. The Fog
  5. The Hitcher

roseyred 04-29-2009 12:49 AM

Heres a few i forgot to mention aswell

Worst
When a Stranger Calls. The first one wasnt the best but it was better than this one.

The Hitcher

Village of the Damned.


The Best

13 Ghosts. Now i liked the 60s version dont get me wrong but the newer was wasnt bad at all.

Elvis_Christ 04-29-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 803394)
Worst:
The Omen

I hear that christ that sucked... I despise that flick along with the Death Race remake.

The Thing, The Fly and The Blob rank among my favorites along with Savini's Night Of The Living Dead. Hooper's Invaders From Mars is totally fuckin' killer.

More recently I thought The Hills Have Eyes was impressive. Enjoyed Zombie's Halloween, Dawn Of The Dead and the new TCM flicks although they dumbed down the original works.

TechnicolorNightmare 10-28-2009 11:29 AM

Best:

5. "2001 Maniacs" (Tim Sullivan, 2005) 8/10
4. "The Fly" (David Cronenburg, 1986) 8/10
3. "The Toolbox Murders" (Tobe Hooper, 2003) 8/10
2. "The Amityville Horror" (Andrew Douglas, 2005) 9/10
1. "The Ring" (Gore Verbinski, 2002) 9/10

Worst:

5. "The Thing" (John Carpenter, 1982) 4/10
4. "Psycho" (Gus Van Sant, 1998) 3/10
3. "House of Wax" (Jaume Collet-Serra, 2005) 3/10
2. "Dawn of the Dead" (Zack Snyder, 2004) 3/10
1. "Teenage Caveman" (Larry Clark, 2001) 1/10

Clockwork Black 10-29-2009 05:09 PM

Best
The Thing
The Fly
2001 Maniacs
Halloween
My Bloody Valentine
(I know most people woulnt agree on those last two, I rather enjoyed both of them though)


Worst ( I havnt seen alot of remakes, not because there remakes, I just thought they would suck. So I skipped them.I skip alot of "orginal" movies for the same reason.)

Black Christmas
13 Ghosts
House of Wax
Halloween 2
When A Stranger Calls

TwistedWitch 10-30-2009 08:39 AM

By far the worst remake I have ever clapped eyes on is When A Stranger Calls.

Best was Rob Zombie's Halloween remake and The Thing I quite liked too.

Ferox13 10-31-2009 01:02 AM

Not mentioned so far:

Good remakes:

1) Wizard of Gore

2) The Maltese falcon

3) King Kong (yep i loved this)


Shit remakes:

1) Rollerball

2) planet of the Apes

3) the fog


I really didn't like the Cape Fear Remake either.

cactus 10-31-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 835225)
3) the fog

agreed...horrible

iSeymore 11-04-2009 09:53 AM

Hey, I actually liked the 2oo3 Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie, 2oo6's "The Beginning" was a lousy movie though, I actually liked the 2oo3 TCSM movie, better than the 1974 Predecessor.

ferretchucker 11-04-2009 10:12 AM

Can't really say anything different than has already been mentioned in this thread, the lists all pretty much sum up my opinion. Not many people seem to like The Blob remake, I thought it was pretty good. They killed a kid which is annoyingly rare...

Elvis_Christ 11-04-2009 04:59 PM

I never really counted 2001 Maniacs as a remake. It was more of a sequel/homage to 2000 Maniacs to me.

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 835225)
I really didn't like the Cape Fear Remake either.

Yeh? How come? I've always really liked that one and its good to see De Niro not playing a mafia dude for a change. Cape Fear has always made me think Scorcese doing a straight up horror flick would be interesting.

ChronoGrl 11-04-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by roseyred (Post 803377)

Best:
Psycho.(98)

:eek:

That movie is one of the many reasons why I think that Gus Van Sant should be shot in the face.

...

I have a hard time considering remakes in either a "Best" or "Worst" category. I consider a remake either "Good," "OK," or "Just unnecessary."

Definitions:
  • Good = As good as or better than the original. Either adds or improves on the original movie.
  • OK = Not bad. Not great, but not bad.
  • Just unnecessary = Does nothing to improve upon the original movie and is something that I can live without.


Good
  • The Grudge - Better than the original. Shimizu had a chance to edit and improve upon his iconic masterpiece
  • My Bloody Valentine 3D - An absolute blast. Uses a new vehicle to create an homage to not only the original but 80s slashers in general
  • Quarantine - Better than the original. There. I said it. Almost shot for shot EXACTLY like the original, but what gives it the edge is that I liked the ending better
  • House on Haunted Hill - GREAT remake. Still love the original, but I thoroughly enjoy watching the remake as well. Definitely took it up an notch with special effects; did more than the original could do
  • Wizard of Gore - Better than the original. Then again, I'm not a huge HGL fan, but this is definitey a must-see for horror lovers
  • Willard - I like this movie probably more than I should. Not sure why, but I am a huge fan

OK
  • Thirteen Ghosts - Good remake. Creepy ghosts. Weak story, but interesting to watch
  • House of Wax - I think this is a successful movie; creepy and well-done
  • Black Christmas - Does not even come CLOSE to the original, but in terms of a home invasion flick, it's not that bad
  • Halloween - I'm not a fan, but I understand what Zombie was trying to do. At least he tried to add someting to it, though I tend to lean this one toward "Unnecessary" because of how much I adore the original
  • Dawn of the Dead - I think that this movie starts out REALLY strong but then peters out. Wish it kept its energy throughout

Unnecessary
  • Friday the 13th - Absolutely unnecessary.
  • King Kong (sorry Ferox)
  • Godzilla
  • Planet of the Apes
  • The Wickerman
  • Psycho
  • The Hitcher
  • The Haunting
  • The Fog - Now this was just a bad movie. Period.

Notes:
  • I do not consider The Thing to be a remake; I consider it to be another adaptation of Who Goes There?
  • I have seen the remake of The Ring and hated it; then again, I haven't seen the original, so it's possible that I might just hate the original too - I will reserve my judgement on this one until I have seen the original
  • I need to watch Cronenberg's The Fly :o
  • I need to see the TCM remake

massacre man 11-04-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 835800)
I never really counted 2001 Maniacs as a remake. It was more of a sequel/homage to 2000 Maniacs to me.

A one added to the number equals sequel. Clearly so!

Ferox13 11-05-2009 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 835800)
I never really counted 2001 Maniacs as a remake. It was more of a sequel/homage to 2000 Maniacs to me.



Yeh? How come? I've always really liked that one and its good to see De Niro not playing a mafia dude for a change. Cape Fear has always made me think Scorcese doing a straight up horror flick would be interesting.

Its definally a pet hate of mine - I love the original so much is prolly part of it and the way everything was very over the top (or hyper real) like the fireworks scene or Cady smoking in the cinema. If it wasn't a remake of one of my favourite films I might have liked it more.

I did like how Cady looked - his character was sorta a mix of the original and his character from Night of the Hunter (the 'religious' diatribes etc).

I do think Mitchum's speech in the original about letting his wife 'work' her way home is really chilling.

roshiq 11-05-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 835810)
That movie is one of the many reasons why I think that Gus Van Sant should be shot in the face.

...and it's a disgrace for the genre that nobody in reality dared to do that yet! [:D]

A movie with a plot hole or even a bad/weak ending may needs a 'remake' but a good movie or a popular one amongst its target audience doesn't need to be remade. So in that point more or less all remakes so far came out were actually unnecessary. But who cares? still remakes of popular, acclaimed or successful old school and foreign horror films are being made or in progress to be come out as a 'secure' money making venture and we also see them eventually to 'judge' how pointless/bad or 'surprisingly good' the effort was.

Anyway, according to Chrono's classification/definition my list would be...

The Grudge - Okay.
My Bloody Valentine 3D - Okay, I think the original is the better one.
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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 835810)
Quarantine - Better than the original. There. I said it. Almost shot for shot EXACTLY like the original, but what gives it the edge is that I liked the ending better.

humm, I love [REC.] ..I watched Quarantine once with a solid disrespect from the very beginning of the movie..I guess I need to give it a watch again.
House on Haunted Hill - Okay.
Wizard of Gore - Haven't seen the original yet, but as a movie it's an interesting one.
Willard - GOOD. Haven't seen the original but love this version anyway.

Thirteen Ghosts - Okay.
House of Wax - As a modern horror film it's okay but definitely needed a different title for sure. As a remake of Price's version...it's a disgrace.
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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 835810)
Black Christmas - Does not even come CLOSE to the original, but in terms of a home invasion flick, it's not that bad

...Agree.
Halloween - Very daring! As a Rob Zombie film, it's a masterpiece! But as a remake of 78's slasher sensation it's surely unnecessary.
Dawn of the Dead - Same as House of Wax. It'd better if it had a different title...like Mall of the Dead or something like that.:)

Friday the 13th - Unnecessary but 'stupendous'!
King Kong - Good.
Godzilla - Okay.
Planet of the Apes - Haven't fully seen neither the original nor the remake. With due respect to Zero, I need to say that personally I hate monkey people.
The Wickerman - Utterly unnecessary.
Psycho - It was a serious Sin. Crime of the century.
The Hitcher - Poor effort resulting unnecessary.
The Haunting - Utterly unnecessary.
The Fog - Unnecessary.

The Thing - Same as Willard. One of the greatest for all time.
The Ring - Okay.
The Fly - Liked the original more. Only one reason is enough...the original has Vincent Price...the remake doesn't.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - My guilty pleasure. An absolute blast for me. 3 years ago..this is the movie that made me become a regular horror movie viewer. Dragged me into the genre. Pretty grateful to it.
The Hills have eyes - Good.
Mirrors - Unnecessary.
Uninvited (A Tale of two sisters remake) - Okay.
When A Stranger Calls - Lame effort. Unnecessary.
2001 Maniacs - Haven't seen the original yet, but as a film I enjoyed it.

mechu95 11-06-2009 09:36 AM

Haven't seen many remakes (or many movies in general compared to you lot), but the one that sticks out like a sore thumb is Psycho (1998). It's more that a remake - it's the same movie, but without that charm. Any way, a waste of film.

Lowrie Productions 11-06-2009 11:24 AM

best:

Dawn Of The Dead
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Fly
Black Christmas (barely lol)


worst:

Halloween
The Ring
The Grudge
Prom Night

Dan

ChronoGrl 11-07-2009 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 835879)

Dawn of the Dead - It'd better if it had a different title...like Mall of the Dead or something like that.:)

LMAO - I agree on that COMPLETELY. I thought that the movie definitely lost steam as soon as they got into the mall. Which is a pity because I thought the beginning of the movie was so strong.

p1zl3 11-08-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 836112)
LMAO - I agree on that COMPLETELY. I thought that the movie definitely lost steam as soon as they got into the mall. Which is a pity because I thought the beginning of the movie was so strong.

You kids have been smoking way too much hippie lettuce... The Dawn of the Dead remake is one of the BEST zombie flicks ever and the events in the mall are crucial to the story/character development. Plus, I felt the entire mall sequence added a sense of reality to the concept of a zombie apocalypse.... even epic catastrophes will have down time.

Best Remakes:
Night of the Living Dead (1990 Savini)
Dawn of the Dead (2004 Snyder)
The Grudge (2004)
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978)
Evil Dead II (1987.. I consider it a re-make and not a sequel)
The Thing (1982)


Worst Remakes:
Shutter (2008)
Pulse (2006)
Friday the 13th (2009)
The Amityville Horror (2005)
Dark Water (2005)
The Haunting (1999)
The Wicker Man (2006)

thedarkknight 11-11-2009 12:00 AM

My favorite remakes:
The Last House on the Left (this is a remake I believe, though never saw the orignal but thought this movie was really good, is this a horror though?)
Halloween 1/2 (Don't care what anyone says I found Zombies Halloweens much more enjoyable than any of the older ones)

Remakes I didn't like
The Grudge
The Ring
The Omen
Never saw the originals just know I don't like the remakes.

Eagerly Anticipating:
A Nightmare on Elm Street (The original is one of my 3 favorite horror movies as of right now so I'm hoping that don't butcher it)

p1zl3 11-11-2009 10:56 AM

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Remakes I didn't like
The Grudge
The Ring
The Omen
Never saw the originals just know I don't like the remakes.
Then what's your basis for comparison? For all you know, they could be the most EPIC remakes ever...

Set the bong down "SirSmokesALot" and think before you post.

ChronoGrl 11-11-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by p1zl3 (Post 836230)
You kids have been smoking way too much hippie lettuce... The Dawn of the Dead remake is one of the BEST zombie flicks ever and the events in the mall are crucial to the story/character development. Plus, I felt the entire mall sequence added a sense of reality to the concept of a zombie apocalypse.... even epic catastrophes will have down time.

Two words: Zombie baby. Who exactly was smoking hippie grass? That was just utter wannabe exploitative tripe.

Not to mention, sitting around the mall was redundant and unnecessary and they were brought down by a ridiculously STOOPID move. The beginning was fantastic. The VERY end was fantastic. Everything in the interim was silly.

massacre man 11-11-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 836712)
Two words: Zombie baby. Who exactly was smoking hippie grass? That was just utter wannabe exploitative tripe.

Not to mention, sitting around the mall was redundant and unnecessary and they were brought down by a ridiculously STOOPID move. The beginning was fantastic. The VERY end was fantastic. Everything in the interim was silly.

The lead girl PISSED ME OFF. Just so ya know.

p1zl3 11-12-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 836712)
Two words: Zombie baby. Who exactly was smoking hippie grass? That was just utter wannabe exploitative tripe.

Not to mention, sitting around the mall was redundant and unnecessary and they were brought down by a ridiculously STOOPID move. The beginning was fantastic. The VERY end was fantastic. Everything in the interim was silly.

...LOL! Yeah, there was a baby zombie... BUT you gotta admit, it was one hellova creepy zombie baby. I thought the mall sequence was brilliant, in that it makes a valid point about the "human beast". Who are we when we are faced with extreme peril? At what point does our humanity give way to our instinct to survive? It had similar tones to 1980's The Thing, in that the threat outside is just a catalyst for social collapse and the real threat hides within our own hysteria...

...That's what I got out of it. :)

ChronoGrl 11-14-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by p1zl3 (Post 836782)
...LOL! Yeah, there was a baby zombie... BUT you gotta admit, it was one hellova creepy zombie baby. I thought the mall sequence was brilliant, in that it makes a valid point about the "human beast". Who are we when we are faced with extreme peril? At what point does our humanity give way to our instinct to survive? It had similar tones to 1980's The Thing, in that the threat outside is just a catalyst for social collapse and the real threat hides within our own hysteria...

...That's what I got out of it. :)

See, I understand the "point" of the mall sequence, but I find it kinda lame. I think that the original Dawn of the Dead made its commentary about seeking shelter in consumerism, but the remake treated it as more of an homage to the original. Also, in terms of the "human beast," I thought that their lax behavior reflected more on the human SLOB. I get the whole consumerism thing. I wanted a continuation of the seige film.

Doc Faustus 11-14-2009 07:58 PM

Wicker Man's the worst. No nudity, no cool folk music, no Christopher Lee, no religious subtext, Nicholas Cage runs like a girl and I want to see him drown in his tears of shame.

Ferox13 11-15-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 836978)
Wicker Man's the worst. No nudity, no cool folk music, no Christopher Lee, no religious subtext, Nicholas Cage runs like a girl and I want to see him drown in his tears of shame.

Yeah but the original had no bees at all...bad example.

neverending 11-15-2009 08:52 AM

It's the perfect example.

Doc Faustus 11-15-2009 09:30 AM

Some other actor that runs even more like a girl should star in remakes of every film Nicholas Cage was ever successful in. If I had a camera, I'd run around like a girl and splice footage of me into Nicholas Cage movies.

p1zl3 11-15-2009 01:40 PM

...but wait, did we forget the infamous "bear-suit bitch knockout" scene?!?!?



Tell me that wasn't Oscar worthy...

Ferox13 11-15-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 837010)
It's the perfect example.

Why do u hate bees?


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