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_____V_____ 06-27-2010 09:50 PM

The next HDC Top 100 - I need YOUR help!
 
We have hammed and hawed through numerous subjects to make our next top 100 compilation, but somehow none of those discussed could exactly fit the bill. I went back to 2006 and rummaged through my mentor Flayed's threads and my old threads, and saw that we have left out one group of individuals who really, REALLY deserve to be recognised in their own Top 100.

Because folks, we are all lovers of horror. And for every horror movie to be a horror movie, he/she is an essential and integral part.

To make things a bit more clear - "It's time to give the Devil his due."

Yes, I am talking about all the fantastic villains who have graced the horror silver-screen from ages and generations. Right from the times of Lon Chaney Sr's Phantom and Graf Orlok, to the modern-day Jigsaw, the villains in horror movie history have evolved continously through the decades. Some really menacing, unstoppable, relentless, brutal, savage, merciless...think of every known evil adjective for them and you will immediately have a horror movie villain fitting that bill in your thoughts. Mainstream, cult, creature, monster, slasher, killer, psychopaths...all of them dominating the horror films with their larger-than-screen presence.

I ask for your help. It's been a long time since we made our last one so let's make this project the most memorable of the lot.

Put your thinking caps on, and your mind back to all the wonderful and awesome villains you have seen in horror movies in all the years you have watched them, and send me your top 20 horror movie villains. You may rank them if you like, or you may send in an no-ranked list, either way your opinions will count in the final compilation.

PMs are welcome, but with the BR not done yet, I would prefer if you sent it to my email at [email protected]. A simultaneous prodding post to this thread confirming the same would be of help.

Keeping the tradition of Top 100's intact, the deadline is spread right into the next month. You all have till the last week of July.

Let's do this. :)

neverending 06-27-2010 09:57 PM

Great idea.

_____V_____ 06-27-2010 10:24 PM

Knew you would like it. :)

One more thing, folks - judge them by their performances and their on-screen presence too, and not only by their popularity among the masses alone.

Try to be slightly impartial, if you can.

Take your time over it. Don't rush your decisions AND your emails to me.

roshiq 06-27-2010 10:33 PM

hehe...you may have know that I have already trying to compile a list of my personal Hundred Horror movies. So I think it will be "easy" for me to make a list of horror movie villains out of them...but to narrow them into only 20 is going to be bit challenging.

Anyway, kudos to V for again coming with an awesome project idea. Hope you can get my e-mail very soon. :)

Elvis_Christ 06-27-2010 10:44 PM

Decisions, decisions.

Great idea V this one will take some thinking about!

roshiq 06-28-2010 02:04 AM

I have already sent my list of Top 20 Horror Movie Villains, please check your e-mail...:)

TheWickerFan 06-28-2010 02:46 AM

I'll be sending my list in shortly.

TheWickerFan 06-28-2010 03:24 AM

My computer won't let me e-mail you so here's my list in no particular order:

Norman Bates (Psycho)
Hannibal Lecter (Silence Of The Lambs)
Dr. Szell (Marathon Man)
Alien (Alien)
Jack Torrance (The Shining)
Bruno Antony (Strangers On A Train)
Harry Powell (Night Of The Hunter)
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare On Elm Street)
Mrs. Danvers (Rebecca)
Asami Yamazaki (Audition)
Annie Wilkes (Misery)
The Tall Man (Phantasm)
Raymond Lemorne (The Vanishing)
Baby Jane Hudson (What Ever Happened To Baby Jane)
Rhoda Penmark (The Bad Seed)
Jigsaw (Saw)
The Duke (Salo The 120 Days Of Sodom)
Predator (Predator)
John Doe (Seven)
Michel Delassalle (Diabolique)

_____V_____ 06-28-2010 04:35 AM

Thanks for your list, WickerFan. If you think of some more as your Honorable Mentions, feel free to send me a PM. You can even edit your Top 20 list within the deadline given. No worries.

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I have already sent my list of Top 20 Horror Movie Villains, please check your e-mail...
Yes I got it Rosh. Thanks. :)

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Great idea V this one will take some thinking about!
Thanks, mate! I know you will be sending in some pretty obscure ones in your list.


3 entries in already. I expect PLENTY more from anyone and everyone reading this thread.

Remember folks, my PM box and my email will wait eagerly for your contribution.

nightmare_of _death 06-28-2010 06:55 AM

Great idea V I'll be working on a list!

newb 06-28-2010 08:18 AM

does it have to be strictly "horror" movies ?


one of the best villains ever to grace the silver screen is in a western.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...enry-fonda.jpg

_____V_____ 06-28-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 865544)

He would indeed be one of my top choices too.

But yes, strictly horror films. The Official HDC Top 100 Horror Movie Villains Of All Time.

missmacabre 06-28-2010 10:01 AM

I'll get right on it. Might not get 20 but I'll throw in some ideas.

_____V_____ 06-28-2010 10:14 AM

Sure thing.

You might be surprised when you sit down to type them out though. I have a feeling you will go past 20.

I need more. The more, the merrier. Right now I have 5 lists and about 140-odd names. Let's see the total stack up to at least 400 before I start the sorting for common names and high ranks.

scouse mac 06-28-2010 11:12 AM

My thinking cap is on, I'll be sending in a list after due consideration.

missmacabre 06-28-2010 11:43 AM

Sent mine. I did narrow it down to 20, kinda. 23 or 24 if you count a few of them individually rather than grouped together.

FreddyMyers 06-28-2010 01:26 PM

Gonna take my time and compile an obscure list. How will the final order be determined. Are you gonna take an average of the lists or something.

Ferox13 06-28-2010 02:18 PM

Working on it now...

fortunato 06-28-2010 05:20 PM

...........................

ChronoGrl 06-28-2010 07:02 PM

Crap - What's the "official" name of the Grudge ghost? My Google skills are failing me... If I just say "Grudge ghost" in my list, you'll know what I mean...

Elvis_Christ 06-28-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 865625)
Crap - What's the "official" name of the Grudge ghost? My Google skills are failing me... If I just say "Grudge ghost" in my list, you'll know what I mean...

Kayako........

_____V_____ 06-28-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FreddyMyers (Post 865590)
Gonna take my time and compile an obscure list. How will the final order be determined. Are you gonna take an average of the lists or something.

Well, for all ranked lists it would be by the system Flayed used for compiling the first Official HDC Top 100 - Your #1 ranked villain will get 5 points, #2 gets 4, #3 gets 3, #4 gets 2 and #5 gets 1 point. The villain with the highest points will lead the pack, then second highest...you get the gist.
If there is a tie in points, then the number of lists he/she figures in. If that's a tie too, then the ranks he/she holds in various lists.
And if we don't have 100 villains with at least 1 point, then I go through the remainder of the top listed ones and find the highest ranked ones in each of them.

For unranked and no-order lists, I am in the process of asking the sender to mention their Top 5 at least. Will make my job easier.

_____V_____ 06-28-2010 09:11 PM

8 lists in already. 195 names in total, in all of them.

Very impressive. I like how you all are taking some time and coming up with really unique Top 5s (at least), instead of the common 80s slashers we all know as popular icons. :)

bwind22 06-28-2010 09:28 PM

Great idea V! My list is in.

The Flayed One 06-29-2010 12:27 AM

I love the nostalgia. My list will be in sometime soon.

_____V_____ 06-29-2010 03:34 AM

Well, well...howdy stranger. How's Amazon treating you post-promotion? :)

Good to see you back around. Eagerly waiting for your list.

ChronoGrl 06-29-2010 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 865632)
Kayako........

Thanks!! :)

The_Return 06-29-2010 07:54 AM

Awesome, awesome idea. My list will take some work, but you will have it ASAP.

fortunato 06-29-2010 05:57 PM

Should have mine either tonight or tomorrow.

Elvis_Christ 06-29-2010 06:46 PM

I'll be in by the due date taking some time to think it out.

Weapon X 07-01-2010 12:25 AM

Just sent mine.

Ferox13 07-01-2010 01:35 AM

Just one question:

If the villian is a number of different films, played by different actors across decades - do we just mention the Villian or the Villian and actor or the Villian and film.


Would I list FU MANCHU (which could mean a number of actors)or FU MANCHU in The Mask of Fu Manchu (which would mean Karloff's interpretation).

Its just feels a bit weird putting down just DRACULA (for example).

Horror4ever 07-01-2010 02:24 AM

I have sent a list via PM, pls confirm me whether you got it or not.

_____V_____ 07-01-2010 02:44 AM

Yes I got it, Horror4ever. As well as WeaponX's list.

Thanks to the following too - Krylon, Toni (what is your ScreenName in here?), Bwind, MissM & especially TheWickerFan for the continuous inputs.

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If the villian is a number of different films, played by different actors across decades - do we just mention the Villian or the Villian and actor or the Villian and film.
Very valid point, and something which I am thinking about long and hard at the moment.

If we take Dracula in general, it would be a wide variety of portrayals from Lugosi to Lee to Oldman - and all of them played a different Dracula in each of their representations.

If we take a particular representation of a common character - say 5 different actors for Dracula - the list might become too monotonous, like say 5 different Draculas, 3 Frankenstein's Monsters, 3 Wolfmen, etc...you get my drift.

I am thinking of one single common villain character for 2 reasons -

1 - If that particular villain character has more than 1 brilliant portrayal behind him/her, it would have it's own particular section with 4-5 different sub-sections. For example Dracula could have Lugosi's, Lee's, Oldman's...listed under it. This would give us ample space to highlight the character AND have plenty of room for blurbs et al for the different portrayals of the same character.

2 - Accumulating them under a single roof will leave a bit more room to pull in some other deserving and underrated villainous characters who otherwise would get ejected out. The list would have a bit more variety and look a bit more refreshing, plus it would be a good way to give a nod to those who usually get overlooked for their more popular and mainstream counterparts.


You can go ahead and send me either a general list, or a specific list of your choices. Either way, the particular villainous character will have it's own space in the 100 for sure - either big or small.


I am open to suggestions for this though. Feel free to put forth your opinions too.

Ferox13 07-01-2010 03:22 AM

Cheers thanks...

You mention Monster/Creature would it be better to keep this to humanoid type monsters like the cenobites/Nosferatu etc rather than include things like Cthulhu/Godzilla/Cujo..

Just a suggestion.

TheWickerFan 07-01-2010 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 865870)
Thanks to the following too - Krylon, Toni (what is your ScreenName in here?), Bwind, MissM & especially TheWickerFan for the continuous inputs.

You're welcome:). This is the first time I got to participate in the voting process on one of these countdowns, and it was a lot of fun. I hope there will be more in the future.

Lists: they're-like-my thing.:cool:

_____V_____ 07-01-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 865878)
Cheers thanks...

You mention Monster/Creature would it be better to keep this to humanoid type monsters like the cenobites/Nosferatu etc rather than include things like Cthulhu/Godzilla/Cujo..

Just a suggestion.

Cthulhu - don't think we have had a kickass brilliant adaptation of it in the movies yet.

Godzilla - strong contender.

Cujo - Haven't seen it in any of the 12 lists submitted.


The only giant monster staking a claim here would be Godzilla. The rest would be humanoid monsters/creatures like the Gill-Man, Wolf Man, Alien, etc.

Villains are more driven by performances. People will submit those whose evilness filled their screens and their minds, rather than suits or CGI without expressions. We are pretty safe there.

Ferox13 07-01-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 865893)
Cthulhu - don't think we have had a kickass brilliant adaptation of it in the movies yet.

Villains are more driven by performances. People will submit those whose evilness filled their screens and their minds, rather than suits or CGI without expressions. We are pretty safe there.

Thats what I was thinking....

The HPLS Call of Cthulhu was pretty brillent,imo...

_____V_____ 07-01-2010 07:53 AM

True, but not great enough to better any actor's evil portrayal of a memorable villain.

roshiq 07-02-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 865895)
True, but not great enough to better any actor's evil portrayal of a memorable villain.

Ditto. It'd better if we can avoid the creatures in this listing process, IMO.


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