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Miggle123 11-03-2010 08:49 AM

A Serbian Film (2010)
 
I was recommended by a friend to watch A Serbian Film. Probably the best horror film ever made in the worst possible way ever.
The person who recommended A Serbian Film to me said he found it in a list of films like it, and it was only ranked (roughly around) 8th on the list.
I can't find this list anywhere.
Does anybody know of this list, or could anyone recommend any films that could top it?
Many thanks

siorai 11-03-2010 12:51 PM

Why not ask the person who recommended you the movie in the first place?

Ferox13 11-03-2010 01:20 PM

Do an ATT:TheWickerFan thread. She has a database of lists. It might be on that.

TheWickerFan 11-03-2010 01:34 PM

This was the closest I could find.http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55053

DeluzioNFX 11-06-2010 10:03 PM

Im guessing by this top 10 list you are referring to a "top 10 most disturbing films" of a said time frame.. correct?

Nat94 10-18-2012 11:21 PM

A Serbian Film
 
I watched this last night because evryone on facebook was saying it was good, personally it made me sick in my mouth multiple times, especially the 'Newborn Pornography' scene and the last sex scene that involved his son.. To be honest if I HAD to choose between watching a double whammy of The Human Centipede or this I would watch The Human Centipede.. I think it was disgusting and disturbing.. Thoughts???

Dara 10-18-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 938285)
I watched this last night because evryone on facebook was saying it was good, personally it made me sick in my both multiple times, especially the 'Newborn Pornography' scene and the last sex scene that involved his son.. To be honest if I HAD to choose between watching a double whammy of The Human Centipede or this I would watch The Human Centipede.. I think it was disgusting and disturbing.. Thoughts???

I have no interest in seeing it .Its just another one of those films where they explore taboos to the extreme.Total shock value makes for a quick quid.
I hope you are over your trauma x

Nat94 10-18-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dara (Post 938286)
I have no interest in seeing it .Its just another one of those films where they explore taboos to the extreme.Total shock value makes for a quick quid.
I hope you are over your trauma x

I had nothing better to do to be honest, but never again will I listen to anyone on facebook without finding more out about the film.. I don't understand who would even pay good money for such shite..
Thank you, just about..x :)

Angra 10-19-2012 03:29 AM

I liked it.

It's like an extreme splatter movie using porn instead of blood and gore. Sure it was disturbing, but i've had worse. And most of all i thought the lead actor was amazing.

But like every other disturbing movie i've seen it's not one i'll watch again. 1 time is always enough.

Nat94 10-19-2012 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 938310)
I liked it.

It's like an extreme splatter movie using porn instead of blood and gore. Sure it was disturbing, but i've had worse. And most of all i thought the lead actor was amazing.

But like every other disturbing movie i've seen it's not one i'll watch again. 1 time is always enough.

So you liked scenes of fat old bald guys having sex with babies and seeing a father arse fuck his son..no way.. It was too extreme

Angra 10-19-2012 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 938312)
So you liked scenes of fat old bald guys having sex with babies and seeing a father arse fuck his son..no way.. It was too extreme

That didn't turn you on?

Must be because you're a mother. Either that or you're just plain weird.


















:p

hammerfan 10-19-2012 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 938285)
I watched this last night because evryone on facebook was saying it was good, personally it made me sick in my mouth multiple times, especially the 'Newborn Pornography' scene and the last sex scene that involved his son.. To be honest if I HAD to choose between watching a double whammy of The Human Centipede or this I would watch The Human Centipede.. I think it was disgusting and disturbing.. Thoughts???

I agree with Dara. I have zero interest in seeing it.

Nat94 10-19-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 938314)
That didn't turn you on?

Must be because you're a mother. Either that or you're just plain weird
















:p


No not at all, sorry..
No, not just because I'm a mummy.. I'm the weird one..pfft :P

Ferox13 10-19-2012 07:30 AM

I like the music in it - the main theme makes a catching ring tone...

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 938312)
So you liked scenes of fat old bald guys having sex with babies and seeing a father arse fuck his son..no way.. It was too extreme

You are obviously missing the socio-political satire of the film....









:D

wizard of gore 10-22-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Медвежуть (Post 938532)
have you tried to use google? it sure helps
enjoy http://www.imdb.com/list/5Ek97Lee3tk/

have you watched all those movies you sick twisted pervert

Nat94 10-22-2012 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 938337)
I like the music in it - the main theme makes a catching ring tone...



You are obviously missing the socio-political satire of the film....









:D

I just know that after it had finished I was too shocked to even move to turn it off haha

paws the great 11-12-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 938312)
So you liked scenes of fat old bald guys having sex with babies and seeing a father arse fuck his son..no way.. It was too extreme

I thought the movie was very well made, and I don't agree that it was "too extreme". I thought those two scenes were just stupid. I thought the movie was a lot of fun up until they added that crap.

Nat94 11-13-2012 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 940444)
I thought the movie was very well made, and I don't agree that it was "too extreme". I thought those two scenes were just stupid. I thought the movie was a lot of fun up until they added that crap.

Yeah agreed it would have been a bit of a hoot if they didn't add sex with children into the mix

paws the great 11-13-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nat94 (Post 940456)
Yeah agreed it would have been a bit of a hoot if they didn't add sex with children into the mix

Well, the plot of the film was over-the-top and ridiculous. And the way some of the people were killed was so far-fetched and funny. It actually made me think of some kind of fu*ked up version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. lol

I never took it serious enough to be disturbed by it!

Tony Vilgotsky 12-06-2013 11:15 PM

Serbian film is not a horror movie in any way. It's a piece of raw evil, hidden under the "horror"'s skin. You don't need to watch it if you just want to prove how tough horror guy you are (choose Cigarette Burns instead). Cause it's not about horror. It's all about over-the-top pornography, madness and perversion.

shadyJ 12-07-2013 12:24 AM

It's very much a horror film. Horror covers all kinds of subject matter and all kinds of treatments. As for Serb Film, it's just shock for shocks sake. Not a nice movie, but in my opinion, there are far worse.

hammerfan 12-07-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Vilgotsky (Post 961053)
Serbian film is not a horror movie in any way. It's a piece of raw evil, hidden under the "horror"'s skin. You don't need to watch it if you just want to prove how tough horror guy you are (choose Cigarette Burns instead). Cause it's not about horror. It's all about over-the-top pornography, madness and perversion.

Welcome back!

Tony Vilgotsky 12-07-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 961060)
Welcome back!

Oh, you remember ::smile:: Thanks!::cool::

cheebacheeba 12-07-2013 03:06 AM

I don't really see it as something else "veiled" as horror or what have you...just that it's not really a conventional type.
I mean, to me I don't consider it all that seperate from films like hostel, while trying to shock in different ways I found there were some similarities, enough to say that if they're considered one type of horror (or as some have labelled it also not as horror, as "torture porn") that this could be under a similar blanket.

Phychological horror/thriller perhaps?

I get why a lot of people would dislike the movie, while I recommend that people see it once I haven't been inclined to view it additional times.
It does introduce some pretty ugly concepts.
I didn't "like" these scenes, though I didn't dislike the movie for them.
Terrible things. Things that would be horrific to experience, like the things the main character witnessed and did while under the influence would surely be horrific to experience for both himself and the victims.
Horrific = horror.
In my mind anyways.

I found it sad, terrible, disgusting, sociopathic.
However, I don't really think it was a bad or poorly made film, given where it came out of.
It's kind of like "Oldboy" meets "Manhunt" in my mind, both works I've enjoyed in the past.
It was a confronting piece, and hard to get through.
I just, I don't know I found some value in it.
Doesn't mean I enjoy the imagery or consider this type of film a preference.

Kandarian Demon 12-07-2013 06:35 AM

I'm one of those people who strongly dislike the movie - I watched it once and regretted it.

My main problem with it is very simple.

Yes, the baby scene was clearly fake... and while I honestly don't get why anyone would enjoy watching something like that for entertainment, it IS fake and I can simply just choose not to see it.

Yes, there are many movies that I don't think are particularly good, and this is one of them... no big deal, we can't all like the same thing.

No, I don't think it's a horror movie either, but that's how I feel about quite a lot of other movies... no big deal either.

My problem is the fact that there are child actors in the movie, which is TOTALLY inappropriate, especially in certain scenes. REAL children, not dolls, participating in a pornographic movie with a story line that involved paedophilia.

I'm sorry... I've heard all the pseudo-intellectual excuses for this movie, and I don't buy them. There is absolutely NO reasonable excuse, and it borders on actual paedophilia.

NightOfTheLiving_Sam 12-07-2013 11:16 AM

I checked out a few scenes from the movie cause I heard lots of people mentioning it to me, and I regretted it. It disturbed me, not a movie for me in the least. ::sad::

cheebacheeba 12-08-2013 01:11 AM

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There is absolutely NO reasonable excuse, and it borders on actual paedophilia.
No reasonable excuse for what?

You sound a bit critical to be honest...actually a lot of you folks do, it's almost as if a person has watched this film and not immediately declared their undying hatred for it, they're considered to be some kind of sick individual.
Personally I take a little offense to this.
It's not as though I went out and desperately searched to get myself a proper copy as soon as I'd seen it.

I saw it. I didn't think it was a bad film.
I would go so far as to say it was well made and effective because through the exposure it gives to these concepts, it did actually evoke certain reactions and feelings - regardless of how negative those feelings may have been, it was an accomplished mission to make the audience feel something.

It doesn't border on anything really...no more does Friday the 13th border on actual murders. It's something depicted in a movie.
Scenes depicting it, yes. Actual, no.
Like, it's either one or the other.
Though obviously that is what it's depicting, and the reason it hasn't had a huge international release - there are laws against depiction of these kinds of things too.
However, it being on the film, does not pedophilia make.
Having watched it and not wanted to protest against the movie and those who made it, does not mean that I feel that these concepts are in any way normal, or alright, or that I would like to see more of the same.
I would, however, watch another movie from the same director out of interest...to see if it's a one-trick kind've deal or thay're actually capable of putting something different together.

There are some things I have a pretty negative reaction to in film.
Joking about rape/murder/abuse, actual animal deaths (which I find much worse than anything in this movie) for the purpose of entertainment, making fun of things like abortion and terminal illness etc.
Obviously people have had a pretty negative reaction to this movie on account of its content.

Though for me a big part of it is the presentation - the subject matter here was treated as dark, disgusting horrible stuff done by antagonists of zero moral compass, and unthinkable things done by a person out of their mind.
It's a poisonous act of villainy - This is the horror that humans can visit upon each other, which in my mind is a pretty scary thing.

Now, I don't really think I've made these points on the basis of intellectual grounds, pseudo or otherwise, nor is it trying to get you convinced that it's actually a great film and you should cut it a break.
It's simply saying what I thought and why, while being mindful enough of the things I say, so that I don't inadvertently attack anyone for their difference of opinion.


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I checked out a few scenes from the movie cause I heard lots of people mentioning it to me, and I regretted it. It disturbed me, not a movie for me in the least.
So you've watched evidently the worst scenes in the film, probably two in particular I can think about - and judged the entire movie based on that...unusual, because the really "bad" things on this movie make up perhaps 5% or less.
I mean unless you're under the impression that it's a movie solely about continual baby-rape, incest and sexualised violence...then to be honest, having exposed yourself to the more negative scenes, you've already seen as bad as it gets right?
Each to their own and all, but I'd personally be like "Hm, ok may as well check the rest out", but that's me...I wouldn't want to have to think about it...I don't like unfinished things.

Though, I will say I find it a little bit strange that you would seek these scenes out and only watch those.
Careful, it might get implied that you're not right in the head around these parts.

Ferox13 12-08-2013 02:26 AM

cheebacheeba - you beat me too it - and probably of only said it better if you typed it with an Irish accent.

Now back to by Mordum marathon.

Kandarian Demon 12-08-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba (Post 961092)
No reasonable excuse for what?

For having child actors in a strongly pornograhic movie, ESPECIALLY one dealing with paedophilia - and for including those child actors in scenes of a more or less sexual nature.

That can't exactly be compared to Friday the 13 (as you suggested), where actors are being chased around by a guy in a hockey mask - actors who, although some of them are young, know exactly what they're doing. I don't see how that can be compared in any way to having small children participate in scenes with a sexual content - something they are not even old enough to fully understand and consent to.

Also, no one is actually hurt in Friday the 13th. No one is being stabbed or cut for real. In A Serbian Film, children are being subjected to inappropriate behaviour for the sake of making a movie about just that...

I just searched "Serbian film clip" on youtube, to try to find an actual example of what I have a problem with. This was the first suggestion that came up, and probably the best example of them all. I realise that there are heavily cencored versions of the movie, so perhaps you haven't seen this one? Do you really think this is an appropriate way to instruct a child actor to act? And although SOME of the dialogue could have been said without her in the room, you can unfortunately see that not all of it is...

And although there is no harm done in the act itself of touching someone's knee, does it make it ok just because she might not understand the sexual meaning behind the act (in the movie)... and even if she does, it she really old enough to consent to having paedophiles get off on seeing her touch an adult man in a way which, in the movie, is certainly meant to be flirtatious and sexual?

LINK

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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba (Post 961092)
You sound a bit critical to be honest

Yes, I'm very critical of paedophilia and of inappropriate behaviour around children, and I would be offended if you didn't think I was.

As for the movie in general, you are right, I didn't think it was a good movie either, but! - I made a point of saying that I do not have a PROBLEM with the movie simply because of what I think about it in general - I also said that although I personally don't think baby rape is entertainment, it IS a doll, it's fake.

My one and only problem with the movie is that there are actual children involved. Yes, there are child actors in many horror movies, and yes, some of those movie have sex scenes - although not with the child actors present. But in this case, we are talking about children participating in scenes with a sexual content, in what is for the most part a violent porn movie involving child rape.

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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba (Post 961092)
Now, I don't really think I've made these points on the basis of intellectual grounds, pseudo or otherwise, nor is it trying to get you convinced that it's actually a great film and you should cut it a break.
It's simply saying what I thought and why, while being mindful enough of the things I say, so that I don't inadvertently attack anyone for their difference of opinion.

My post was not aimed at you personally, but there has, as you know, been quite a lot of debate about this movie, and not just here. I don't have a problem with anything you've said, or the way you said it, although I don't agree with you. Like you, I am simply stating my personal opinion.

So I am sorry if you saw it as some kind of personal attack - my post was not even a reply to you in particular, it was just my thoughts about this movie and all the controversy surrounding it in general.


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