Cannibal Holocaust authentic yay or nay
 

How authentic is this film, I watched it yesterday for the first time, read through the CH thread somewhere, but is there any real proof that this is, well....... what you see is actually real..

I must admit, some of it did look pretty real to me, or the guys in charge of special effects and makeup really knew their stuff, cos some of the scenes pulled off looked pretty convincing, for the age of the film.

there was brief info before the end credits about prosecution, but was the guy prosecuted due to the nature of it even though it was fake or because it was real and he broke boundires with what shouldnt have been filmed.

I didnt find the film disturbing, just increased my curiosity around such a title as this.

Re: Cannibal Holocaust authentic yay or nay
 

as an italian film fan (got my badge and everything) what do you need to know

if the story behind the dvd was true, then are the clips in the dvd from the actual film footage taken during real events. It's just that over the years I've read so much speculation as to it's authenticity, it would be nice for some clarrification, if not that, what you guys think of it.

what story, the filmmakers disappearing in the jungle...you've been reading too much. it's a film......there is real footage mix into the film, when they show the footage from the "teams" previous documentary they used footage from a mondo movie showing real executions.

This is what I've been told...

The animal slaughters are authentic.
The human stuff is not.

P.S. That guys weiner getting hacked off look so real I find it hard to believ it wasn't, but that's what I've been told.)

thats what I wanted to know, wether there was actually real footage in the film from actual events, not just 'scripted'clips added amongst the team being filmed.

ok listen up, gather round, this is the gospel.

1) jungle violence against humans - special effects
2) jungle violence against animals - real
3) documentary footage of executions - real

so....zwoti... are you saying that dude's dick really did get chopped off? Or no?

I presume i've seen the uncut version, the dvd case is the Vipco red black and white one, nothing on it says uncut

anyway I think the only execution i saw was the bit where the guy takes the woman to the shore side on the boat and disposes of her, whilst she's laying on the mud etc. Unless I'm mistaken or got a cut version thats about it i think.

no, that would come under no.1, human violence in the jungle. the real human violence is when they show the documentary (something like last road to hell?) when you see people being shot & executed. this footage is real as from a mondo movie called africa addio. mondo movies are very questionable with a lot of accusations that some of the real deaths on screen were organised purely for the filmmakers.

this one?

yeah thats the one.



oh yea i remember seeing the african part.

note theres is no sticker saying uncut. they happily tell you when it's uncut but not when it has been butchered..note on the below cover

so, do you know anywhere online in the uk, that has an uncut version.

firstly it's not going to be a uk release, that had nearly 6 minutes cut out. ebay might be an option though you would probably end up with the cut version. i go to shows where i pick up my foreign dvd's, saves any problems with customs.

I may fire up bit torrent and have a search.



cheers dude :)

be prepared, if you've only seen the cut uk version, there is a lot of real animal killings...so don't say you haven't been warned.

np's my stomachs pretty hardy.

:)

I just sold an uncut version to kpro about a month ago.

poor old shanks, he'll find a copy eventually

Hell yeah and it was fucking awesome to... thx Bwind...
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No prob, dude!

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Just dug this up...And i could not beleive what i was reading!!!

Speculation on whether the deaths in "Can Holo" were REAL???!

Are you guys fucking serious?

You are a tabloid paper's dream come true.

"I find it hard to beleive the guy did not have his dick chopped off"??
and.do you really have to ask the question????...
It's a movie!
A movie that got a widespread, international release on cinema, VHS and DVD...A movie that has actors who have worked in other films and who give interviews.....
and you are even contemplating that ACTORS were really killed??? Murdered??!!

The onl real deaths are documentary film deaths...NOTHING to do with the actual movie or it's actors!

You sound like the idiots who wrote garbage like 'Snuffed Out' in the UK papers over Video Nasty films!

Use your heads!
Or at the very least stay WELL away from this film and it's ilk.
Stick to Freddy.

And guess what? "Blair Witch Project" wasn't real either...yeah...*shock*:rolleyes:

Judging by your response, freak, you didnt read the entire thread, and if you did, you appear to have missed something. Zwoti cleared everything up, and the basic idea of a snuff film is possible enough, so it was a valid question.

I have no personal interest in CH, but shit on someone else's curiosity about it.

Bullshit! It was not a valid question at all!!
Nothing should have needed 'clearing up'!
For Christ sake how can anyone defend such crap and treat it with even the faintest bit of respect?

It was valid to ask if an actor was really killed and mutilated by the film maker? SERIOUSLY? You think that?

Yeah...
And all those guys Bruce Willis shot...never got up again.
And "ET" really came down.
And Jason really sliced and diced all those unfortumate actors.
And none of the "Blair Witch" actors were ever seen again!!
GROW UP.

Crap like this makes my blood boil!

This kind of 'snuff' bullshit is the garbage 10 year olds say in school playgrounds (but they obviously have an excuse!!) and the propaganda that Censorship groups spread try to get films banned and cut!
And that this mind-set is being spouted in a hORROR FORUM is sad indeed!

With friends like these the horror genre needs no enemies!

Deodato..film maker in various genres, who makes films released all over the world to be seen in public, who works with many actors some more than once, who works on TV and who gets interviewed about his films........
KILLED someone in his movie??? Yeah..right...
What planet do some of you guys live on!?

It's not only insulting to the horror genre to say that 'these' types of people that make 'these' types of films would MURDER ACTORS but an insult to horror fans with even half a brain to have in their ranks idiots who think directors might have killed people for real!!

Such people make us all look like the dumb fuck, moronic horror fan cliche many of us have tried for years to leave behind!

"Hey dude..you hear about this film? they supposedly kill people for real on set"!
"Really? Gross dude"!

GIVE ME FUCKING BREAK!
This is Beavis and Butthead mentality in full flow!

That these moronic questions were even asked is bad eneough...but to then have someone defend the right to ask them?!

Perhaps some people really should stick to "Rugrats" cartoons and do us, the horror genre, films in general and themselves a real big favour!

Oh and I guess the actor who had his dick chopped off must be a REAL sport...as he went on to appear in "City of the Living Dead" and then back to the cannibals again for "Cannibal Ferox"!
Not bad for a dickless dead guy!!
:mad: :rolleyes:

good points ...

but you are taking the stance that all horror film fans are stable sensible people.

there ARE tons of 'horror fans' out there that dig on the reality of the gore only. Why do you think the 'faces of death' shit exists anyway ? to appeal to the 'sound of music crowd' ?

I understand the frustration at the confusion over whats real what isnt ... yes the movie is a legit release albiet not popular release ...
Yes there is a faux attempt - a la Blair Witch - to make it look like a documentary ...

But to say this kind of conversation gives horror fans a bad image ?

c'mon ! how many critiques are already on this forum where people complain about the lack of gore in a film ? a lot more than the 'lack of style - or social relevance' complaints.

There are a lot of folks attracted to the blood and guts - i used to be.
I think i've grown out of it .. it doesnt really do it for me anymore.
Actually - if it is completely nuts and unrealistic (99% of Evil Dead)
then i find it funny, i love the wild entheusiasm - but the realistic gore (i.e. - people committing violent crimes against each other) i'm getting pretty tired of it ...
It's just getting too close to whe you see in the papers.

I guess it's true .. getting older can possibly mellow a fella depending on what he's been exposed to.

But the vast majority of horror fans are young guys who seem to view exposure to blood and guts as a rite of passage ... I'm a tough guy - i can handle this shit ... well, good for you. your medal is in the mail.

To sit back and try to protect the 'image' of us fright fans like the poppa smurf of horror is kind of a shallow endevour..

People dont care as much as you think. You talk about the past when people scorned the works of James Whale, etc ... well it certainly didnt affect the business did it ? Horror films have been made .. progressivly more violent and graphic. Some times the censors tighten up .. and then they relax again ... cycles.
Reactions to the public demands ...which come and go like the tide.

This is basically a long winded way to say .. relax ... unknot your panties and stop worrying about the image of the fans ...
They'll be making horror films of ALL kinds long after you or I or anyone else here is long gone.

and the moral of the story is....

.....always make sure you check thats it's ok to make threads on certain subjects, before you press that submit button, otherwise some readers may throw their toys out the pram.

What has gore got to do with anything?
What has a love of gore got to do with anything?

Your whole post missed the point. And wasn't about anything i said!

Liking gore has nothing to do with asking the moronic question..or even contemplating the thought...about whether or not Ruggero Deodato murdered actors!!!

This has nothing to do with what kind of film people like or the content...it's to do with idiots asking if a film maker MURDERED someone!
And that such a question..or even such a thought is in any way anything but absurd!

And what has age got to do with anything??? I know a few young horror fans on message boards, but none of them are sdumb enough to ask if people were really killed in "CH" or did the guy really have his dick cut off!!!
Age is yet another point that has nothing to do with my post. (children aside)

Shanks...you're either 10 years old or an idiot.
Either way, stay the hell away from anything over a PG.
Your mentality is evey right thinking horror fan's worst fucking nightmare!


I'll say it gain...
This kind of 'snuff' bullshit is the garbage propaganda that Censorship groups spread try to get films banned and cut!

no, i think i addressed a number of your points ...
I aknowledged your frustration at what upset you .. the real vs staged deaths ...
you also mentioned the horror fan cliches ..and potential 'enemys of the genre' i addressed that as well ..

I'm a huge fan of the horror genre ... have been for over 20 years. I'm not a moron and i don't take Shanks to be one either ..

But I'll tell you .. i've seen my fair share of morons that do love horror .. and every other genre ...

Shanks isnt exactly sinking the ship here.

The filmmakers should be bloody proud (pardon the pun) that the make up effects made a fan question their authenticity at all !

ET isn't real?

http://www.nedva.ru/b/crybaby.jpg

are you sure? I could have sworn I saw a bike in the sky yesterday.

No..you don't understand at all...
There is no confusion to be frustrated about. And i'm not.
As it's idiotic to even have ANY KIND of confusion about this!
It's absurd!
To even think for 1 second that this is real, and that people who worked on it were mutilated and murdered is so far out there it's dancing on fucking Pluto!

And this is a film that has been released in countless countries and has had an amazingly long life.
Of course it's popular!
YOU CAN BUY THE FUCKING THING ON AMAZON AND IN HIGH STREET SHOPS!
And yet we have questions about whether or not the film is full of real actors being actually murdered!?

This is not a dirty VHS tape found under a fucking garbage bag in some alleyway!
It's a legit movie that had a wide spread cinema release all over the world, from a well known, proific director, stars actors who have gone on to make other films and is available on countless DVD and VHS releases all around the globe... and can be bought as easily as "Shrek"!
Yet we are seriously contemplating (and taking seriously the question!!) an actor really had his dick chopped off!??
And that actors were slaughtered by the makers?!

Perhaps the DVD's of this should now come with a compulsary IQ test so people like Shanks don't get their minds all confused and drag us back to the days of puritanical witch burning!
Which is exactly the fate horror and exploitation has suffered over such idiotic claims and questions.#

Sod this for a laugh...some of you lot really need to have a good long think about things. As this bullshit is a bad fucking joke.

Shanks...you're supposed to be 32/33 years old? God help you if that's true!

Here's a tidbit...Charlie Sheen , in around '87, was watching CH when , covinced it was real, he brought it to the police. So disturbed was he, that he took up a lifestyle of drugs and crime...okay, that last part is just a joke, but he really did bring the tape to the police, saying it was a snuff film. So either these people who think it's real are vindicated by this story, or they're completely embarrassed because Charlie Sheen is an idiot.

why are you getting so worked up, repeating yourself over and over again..... It wont change anything. If you're that bothered about the thread content then why dont you email a Mod and get them to remove it :rolleyes: If you're that bothered about why people are asking whether it's real or not then another :rolleyes: to you. jeeeezzz I see enough preaching at work and on the Tv, I dont wana come here and have to be preached to by someone who needs to get of their high horse. :rolleyes:

Well in fact it was "Flowers of Flesh and Blood"..not "Cannibal Holocaust".

And to anyone but an idiot that (even though it is made to look simply like one person killing another) is also false due to the fact mutilations are shown from different angles with no camera in shot.
Thus meaning the gore is false or that the woman has the power to re-grow limbs.
Oh...and the fact that the victim went on to make other films of course.

rather like the man who some specimens think had his dick cut off!

But as this Thread proves...idiots come in all shapes, sizes, ages and from many backgrounds!

there is an awfully fine line between exasperation and frustration

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And this is a film that has been released in countless countries and has had an amazingly long life. Of course it's popular! YOU CAN BUY THE FUCKING THING ON AMAZON AND IN HIGH STREET SHOPS!

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Perhaps the DVD's of this should now come with a compulsary IQ test so people like Shanks don't get their minds all confused and drag us back to the days of puritanical witch burning! Which is exactly the fate horror and exploitation has suffered over such idiotic claims and questions.#

cant be too much damage done by people asking questions if you can buy it as easily as you can Shrek...

I think the dark ages are gone and we are all safe now ...

Other than sex with the odd dead body this was one little thing shanks didnt think all the way through .. I'd have a hard time jumping all over his spine for that ...

so does intolerance ... no different from the intolerance that some people show to horror films ..

Well in fact it was "Flowers of Flesh and Blood"..not "Cannibal Holocaust".

Okay, but can you see from my post I was actually on your side? So you rant against me like some sort of maniac who has seen to many horror movies? These horror movies sure have a bad effect on people.

Exactly where did i rant against YOU?

I will do if you want...but i didn't above.
Thanks though.


This place is going down fast from my initial high estimation.

Well, in fact it was a compilation tape compiled by Deep Red editor Chas Balun - his creation consisted of most of The Flower, The Flesh & The Blood, and this was reportedly the tape that fell into the hands of Mr Sheen.

If you ask me, he should get back to polishing furniture (Mr Sheen, not Mr Balun).

It may be surprising to learn some folk are perhaps not jaded or educated enough to know the truth of the "snuff" myth, but only a minority have done enough research on the subject to approach contentious titles such as Cannibal Holocaust with works of art in mind rather than real murder. It is perhaps a testament to the raw power of this film - look at the uproar it caused upon its release, and still does to this day.

Goes to show the power of the press, mind - and that most people have a requirement for "snuff" to exist on some level simply because of video technology and that it may be one of the most heinously humiliating acts of murder man could possibly commit.