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Old 01-26-2019, 07:33 AM
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But I don't understand what it is you think the Native Americans need to own up to. All they were trying to do was basically be a shield between the religious Fanatics and the kids. ...

... I feel like Nathan Phillips perhaps should have apologized for the way he reacted, but unfortunately he didn't take any responsibility for it, which I will say is kind of a douchebag thing to do.
You've answered your own question. Really though, I didn't say Mr Phillips has to answer for anything, I just pointed out what he did. Let me just add, ask yourself, why was Phillips and his group there with drums at the monument? They were there to be seen and messages heard (same as BHI group). They got that beyond their wildest imagination. And that's fine; I fully support our Constitutional rights/principals of freedom of speech, assembly and petition/protest.

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Like I think all they were doing was trying to keep peace but everything just got completely thrown out of proportion. I don't feel like the natives or the high school students were really that damaging to one another nearly as much as the extremists were. The fact that they will not play the part of the video where the guy says their land was taken from them because they don't worship the correct God. I mean doesn't anybody find that alone to be far more threatening than anything that happened in that crowd?
Nope, not really, you should have expected this (vid below). This media incident highlights not jumping to conclusions.



And so what? Let everybody there speak their opinions and converse if they want. It's not 'threatening' as in physical violence, it's mentally confrontational... people have ideas, grievances, needs, etc, no need to get pissed off about it... we're not even there, they handled it themselves.

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It all comes down to the media showing what they want so they can manipulate the viewers into believing one certain group of people were wrong while the other were right. This was all spearheaded by the media to begin with in the first place. They are the ones who are breaking apart the country. They are just as responsible for messing with the system as the government
Primarily media does this for money: viewership brings advertising dollars. At some point the individual interests of the individual media owners comes into play; and people can debate what those are. But I don't think anyone 'in the media' pre-planned this, it's possible, but I doubt it. Almost everyone with a cell phone is minorly 'in the media' now.

I'd just say people need to embrace listening, discussion, debate, respect for fellow human beings and finding common ground.
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