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Old 05-30-2006, 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I thought they were trying too hard too be a sort of "cult cool".
I agree with you dude. Tarantino forgot subtley with these flicks.
This was reinforced for me after watching the Devil's Rejects and the Kill Bill movies pale in comparison. Rob Zombie took a lot of the 70s A.I.P grindhouse conventions and melded them into a more original vision than Tarantino did with Kill Bill. Kill Bill wore that Jack Hill influences on it sleeve and piked out on the Story of Ricky and Itchi The Killer splatter. At least Zombie reinvented the conventions by making the audience become attached to Last House on The Left style scumshit trash villians while being repelled at the same time. Sure tried (you could even say tired)and true conventions were used but at least they weren't overblown. Fuck I grew up on the Shaw Brothers kung-fu, Jack Hill women in gangs/prison/very little clothes kicking ass flicks, the 80s Ninja period (VHS for a babysitter) so I see what Tarantino was going for.... it was just a little to obvious for my liking. But as a teenager the Tarantino shit turned me onto a whole bunch of movies I never would've watched as I'm sure Kill Bill has. How much does he kick ass with subltey!! Jackie Brown was a masterpiece of reinvention and Reservoir Dogs changed my fucking life (saw film in a different way, gave me a attitiude that ANYONE can make a movie thats better than a bunch of the Hollywood bullshit). Tarantino spearheaded a filmic movement (whatever the fuck they'll call it or have called it - QT gets roped into the 90s indie revolution but its more important than that) and now all I see is rehash rather than reinvention. Hopefully it won't be another case of the maverick being reassimilated into the mainstream.............

But whatever I don't have people knocking down doors to film my scripts and Tarantino is a hell of a lot better film maker than Ritchie Cunningham/Speilberg/Lucas (add your own three blind mice kids). Shit I'll probably have a blah, blah, blaaaaahhh "that mans had to much wine" speech about Rob Zombie's next film in the same vein but at the moment RZ is breathing some fresh life into "trash cinema". The Devil's Rejects makes me feel like watching River's Edge/ Drugstore Cowboy/Reservoir Dogs/Clerks/Bad Lieutenant for the first time again.
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