I like the Empire list of best films. Have some really good modern films that tend to be marginalized by AFI (such as Matrix, Fight Club, etc).
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Originally Posted by neverending
I have to disagree. People like a lot of terrible movies, and will argue the hell out of why they are great.
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Yes, I can't disagree with that... many people certainly love some bad films. I guess in my experience exchanging fav flims with friends, MOST of their favs are the widely accepted 200 odd films you'd find on AFI's list. Maybe that's not your experience.
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Originally Posted by neverending
Can we not enjoy a film because of its artistry? The Godfather is a film that people here keep pointing out as a great film they don't enjoy. I enjoyed the hell out of that movie and have rewatched it many times. Scorcese is a true artist whose work astounds me. Of course I enjoy being challenged, educated and enlightened by art. I keep getting reminded time and again that many people don't care for that. They just want to see things explode.
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I enjoyed The Godfather, and it was mainly for the educational stimulation - the cultures I'm not familiar with... like Sicilian, American-Italian-Sicilian, Roman Catholic and Mob family life. That was fascinating. I was also taken with the technical artistry - the filming technique of telling the story, building tension and contrast... such as the baptism plus whacking enemies scene.
I could say the same things for Raiders of the Lost Ark... the exotic locations and cultures, info on archaeology and Ark, political structures/processes... and of course the technical artistry of the film technique of telling the story, building tension and contrast.
They're different types of films, both done well. If Spielberg used the subtly in Raiders that Coppola used in Godfather, he would have failed in doing the Raiders' genre correctly.
To me, it's about knowing what style and story your doing, and doing that well. Not doing the wrong style, or trying to put every style in one film.
AFI tends to highly value the melodrama and film adaptations of literary and playwright classics, it's moderate on romance and comedy, and devalues the Sci-fi, Fantasy, Action and Horror. I don't feel the need to copy that predilection.