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03-02-2004, 11:02 PM
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Instinct=Protect your children
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03-02-2004, 11:36 PM
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in answer to the original question i would kill my loved one in order to get the powers. then i would ressurect them, and use my power to do things for myself and my loved ones. then help the world if i have time :) :)
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03-02-2004, 11:52 PM
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Heres a mind tickler from Descartes
Everything you know, is gained from knowing that it (whatever you know) is clear and distinct, but what if your mind is decieving you into believing that knowledge is clear and distinct, when in actuality it isn't. Descartes-" that can't happen because god would not allow me to be cevieved when I am using my mental faculties properly, since god gave them to me to use for aquiring knowledge (clear and distinct ideas) How then can you be sure that god exists, what are your clear and distinct ideas. His answere was "because I have a clear and distint reason that god exists." Highlight for his answere, but be aware its a Cartesian Circle.
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ARTHUR: Old woman! DENNIS:Man! ARTHUR:Man. Sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there? DENNIS:I'm thirty-seven. ARTHUR:I-- what? DENNIS:I'm thirty-seven. I'm not old. ARTHUR:Well, I can't just call you 'Man'. DENNIS:Well, you could say 'Dennis'. ARTHUR:Well, I didn't know you were called 'Dennis'. DENNIS:Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? ARTHUR:I did say 'sorry' about the 'old woman', but from the behind you looked-- DENNIS:What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior! ARTHUR:Well, I am King! DENNIS:Oh, King, eh, very nice. And how d'you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By 'anging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any progress with the-- WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh! How d'you do? ARTHUR:How do you do, good lady? I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Who's castle is that? WOMAN:King of the who? ARTHUR:The Britons. WOMAN:Who are the Britons? ARTHUR:Well, we all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king. WOMAN:I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. DENNIS:You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship: a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes-- WOMAN:Oh, there you go bringing class into it again. DENNIS:That's what it's all about. If only people would hear of-- ARTHUR:Please! Please, good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? WOMAN:No one lives there. ARTHUR:Then who is your lord? WOMAN:We don't have a lord. ARTHUR:What? DENNIS:I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week,... ARTHUR:Yes. DENNIS:...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting... ARTHUR:Yes, I see. DENNIS:...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,... ARTHUR:Be quiet! DENNIS:...but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major-- ARTHUR:Be quiet! I order you to be quiet! WOMAN:Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh. ARTHUR:I am your king! WOMAN:Well, I didn't vote for you. ARTHUR:You don't vote for kings. WOMAN:Well, how did you become King, then? ARTHUR:The Lady of the Lake,... [angels sing] ...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king! DENNIS:Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ARTHUR:Be quiet! DENNIS:Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! ARTHUR:Shut up! DENNIS:I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away! ARTHUR:Shut up, will you? Shut up! DENNIS:Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. ARTHUR:Shut up! DENNIS:Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed! ARTHUR:Bloody peasant! DENNIS:Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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03-03-2004, 01:11 AM
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.... I think, therefore I pwn you.
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03-03-2004, 01:43 AM
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Actually, that is a famous Descartes quote, but most people don't know who said it.
RE I think we all know that when it comes to me, you get 
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ARTHUR: Old woman! DENNIS:Man! ARTHUR:Man. Sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there? DENNIS:I'm thirty-seven. ARTHUR:I-- what? DENNIS:I'm thirty-seven. I'm not old. ARTHUR:Well, I can't just call you 'Man'. DENNIS:Well, you could say 'Dennis'. ARTHUR:Well, I didn't know you were called 'Dennis'. DENNIS:Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? ARTHUR:I did say 'sorry' about the 'old woman', but from the behind you looked-- DENNIS:What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior! ARTHUR:Well, I am King! DENNIS:Oh, King, eh, very nice. And how d'you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By 'anging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any progress with the-- WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh! How d'you do? ARTHUR:How do you do, good lady? I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Who's castle is that? WOMAN:King of the who? ARTHUR:The Britons. WOMAN:Who are the Britons? ARTHUR:Well, we all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king. WOMAN:I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. DENNIS:You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship: a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes-- WOMAN:Oh, there you go bringing class into it again. DENNIS:That's what it's all about. If only people would hear of-- ARTHUR:Please! Please, good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? WOMAN:No one lives there. ARTHUR:Then who is your lord? WOMAN:We don't have a lord. ARTHUR:What? DENNIS:I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week,... ARTHUR:Yes. DENNIS:...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting... ARTHUR:Yes, I see. DENNIS:...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,... ARTHUR:Be quiet! DENNIS:...but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major-- ARTHUR:Be quiet! I order you to be quiet! WOMAN:Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh. ARTHUR:I am your king! WOMAN:Well, I didn't vote for you. ARTHUR:You don't vote for kings. WOMAN:Well, how did you become King, then? ARTHUR:The Lady of the Lake,... [angels sing] ...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king! DENNIS:Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ARTHUR:Be quiet! DENNIS:Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! ARTHUR:Shut up! DENNIS:I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away! ARTHUR:Shut up, will you? Shut up! DENNIS:Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. ARTHUR:Shut up! DENNIS:Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed! ARTHUR:Bloody peasant! DENNIS:Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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Unit 03, I had to study Des Cartes in my Religious Studies classes. I hate his logical notions, because they're boring and stupid. I mean, hell, the man thought the soul resided in the petuitary gland. That question only works if you're JudeoChristian, anyway. In my world, nothing's promised, nothing is totally secure. Besides besides BESIDES, as someone who is mentally ill, fuck it. I don't really have "clear" and "distinct" ideas.
However Des Cartes would say that my illness, especially mental, stems from my disconection with "God." Rayne, I agree with you totally. I could not, under any circumstances kill my loved one, even to become a Goddess. The Morrigan is doing an excellent job, Herself, anyway.
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Descartes was a schmuck. But then, so are most philosophers anyway. They tend to leave out the "I think..." before telling you how the world works.
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03-03-2004, 06:08 AM
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"Cogito Ergo Sum" - I think, therefore, I am.
The original quote from Reneé Descartes. I have heard of two variations: "Cogito Ergo Sum Atheos" - I think, therefore, I am without God (or "an Atheist") And I created my own: "Cogito Ergo Sum Doleo" - I think, therefore, I am in pain. *FADE OUT*
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03-03-2004, 06:38 AM
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I would do it for free.
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03-03-2004, 06:46 AM
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Immortality would probably suit me, but, since its "the loved one" case, it's gonna have to be the CheebaGod thing.
Unless I read the small print, and the "resurrection of brutally murdered loved one" was something that I, being a "Murderous god" wasn't "entitled" to.] ps - Pwned? Last edited by cheebacheeba; 03-03-2004 at 06:48 AM.
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