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Old 06-15-2020, 02:55 PM
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Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth The first ten minutes had two or three womp womp-moments and the rest was silly and goofy. Both the club massacre and seeing the douchebag club owner get his were fun moments and granted, the scene with the two cenobites trying to intimidate Joey was a bit scary. 6/10
Say, Tommy, curious about your use of the term womp womp moments. You wrote "The first ten minutes had two or three womp womp-moments and the rest was silly and goofy." I googled womp womp moments, and various sources say it's from the long time famous "awww, you lose" trombone sound, and means something sad, or bad happened. Are you using it in a different way? Like the way you used it in that sentence sounds like you mean in the first 10mins there were some "good things" that happened. I know things change. I saw it has a used in the online game Fortnite too -- looking at the video, might be used after fragging a guy, which would work with the "aww, you lose" traditional usage. thanks!
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:53 AM
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Say, Tommy, curious about your use of the term womp womp moments. You wrote "The first ten minutes had two or three womp womp-moments and the rest was silly and goofy." I googled womp womp moments, and various sources say it's from the long time famous "awww, you lose" trombone sound, and means something sad, or bad happened. Are you using it in a different way? Like the way you used it in that sentence sounds like you mean in the first 10mins there were some "good things" that happened. I know things change. I saw it has a used in the online game Fortnite too -- looking at the video, might be used after fragging a guy, which would work with the "aww, you lose" traditional usage. thanks!
Well, the way I understood it up until now is some form of lameness/failure. In this case, a foreshadowing line so on the nose and obvious that it becomes lame. Example: Terminator 3. A few minutes in, Clare Danes' character has the line "I hate machines". Womp womp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrln8zrAlVI

In the case of Hellraiser III, the main character/reporter being frustrated about a boring job and then hearing something like "the story of your life may be closer than you think".
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:09 AM
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Or with a Cinema Snob-line: Ugh, this is such a rip off of [Rec].
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:02 AM
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Well, the way I understood it up until now is some form of lameness/failure. In this case, a foreshadowing line so on the nose and obvious that it becomes lame. Example: Terminator 3. A few minutes in, Clare Danes' character has the line "I hate machines". Womp womp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrln8zrAlVI

In the case of Hellraiser III, the main character/reporter being frustrated about a boring job and then hearing something like "the story of your life may be closer than you think".
OK, I got ya. So you were saying the first ten minutes of Hellraiser3 had a few moments of lame lines that drew attention to themselves, "becoming self aware", pretty much breaking the forth wall (taking you out of the story universe), and the rest was silly and goofy? That's sounds pretty bad for a horror film.

Yeah, the original Hellraiser was pretty straight horror and didn't break the forth wall. It had some satire of course, but not self-aware parody. Not too uncommon for sequels. I think of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 which jumped the ship and went to a weird dark humor parody of itself.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:05 AM
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DARK ENCOUNTER 2019

"A year after the mysterious disappearance of an eight-year-old girl, we meet her grieving family as they return home from her memorial service in their small town. Later that evening, strange lights appear in the nearby forest."

A slow pace but worth it. Bittersweet.
So she's back, but different in an evil horror kind of way?
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:38 PM
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OK, I got ya. So you were saying the first ten minutes of Hellraiser3 had a few moments of lame lines that drew attention to themselves, "becoming self aware", pretty much breaking the forth wall (taking you out of the story universe), and the rest was silly and goofy? That's sounds pretty bad for a horror film.
Pretty much, yeah.

It's still a bit of a relief. When someone asks that sort of stuff. I always tend to think I did something wrong for a minute.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:48 PM
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So she's back, but different in an evil horror kind of way?
Nah, she didnt come back....
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Nah, she didnt come back....
Awww! womp womp!
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Old 06-16-2020, 08:31 PM
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I think Hellraiser 3 is my favorite after the original.
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