what do u think god or satan looks like

[misterX]

Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Okay ... This sentence all by itself is my cue to stop debating with you. Anyone who has any education worth its salt never says that they know it all. Socrates said that the only reason the oracle stated he was the wisest man was because he knew that he knew nothing ... whereas everyone else thought they knew everything. All this does is show me that you are too ignorant to even realize that you are ignorant (just like we ALL are ignorant, to a certain extent.) You've already demonstrated that you're the type of guy who will be shown evidence that contradicts what he currently believed, and is too arrogant to change his belief in light of the evidence (I am referring to the "Moon" reference I posted.) You merely dismissed the evidence as "wrong", to keep from feeling/sounding stupid. When in actuality, by doing this, you made yourself look more stupid than you would have had you admitted to receiving knowledge that you did not previously have. I admit when I am wrong, and am smart enough to reevaluate what I previously thought to be true when I receive new information. As soon as you give me the sources that you say prove elephants possess a conscious awareness (not instinct) of their own mortality, then I will concede the point to you and rethink my ideas. That is, if the source is both reliable and valid (as in: don't post some crap from website written by an unknown elephant fan who has no educated knowledge on the fundamentals of Biology.) Only then will I continue with this with you. Otherwise, I know from the sentence in your above quote that anything I say will go in one ear and out the other, valid and reasonable, or not. If it doesn't jive with what you believe, you won't listen to or consider it. You'll just pretend you never heard it, and keep on saying the same thing over and over. It's pointless to continue.

ok. now with the quote by Socrates. just because someone says something catchie, doesn't make it true. and as far as the moon goes. if the earth was hit by a object big enough and hard enough to displace a mass as big as the moon it would have destroyed it. and lets say it didn't destroy it. if the earth was hit by a object hard enough to make a mass as big as that break the gravitaional pull of the earth. the earth would not be able to hold it in place. the moon would totaly escape the earths pull. its just simple reasoning. but most atheist are too retarded, to think for themselves, you sit there and absorb anything that would try and discredit the excistance of god like the blind sheep you are. same with the elephants. i'm still looking for that proof, because it was a number of years since i read about it. But in the mean time think about it. do you think animals with as much intelligence as a elephant or dolphin etc. don't know they will die? and not just from a accident or from a predator? come on you stupid atheist sheep think for yourself for once. and speaking of making claims with out any proof. how do you know god doesnt excist? like you claimed in your post? o and i don't see you replying to my discrediting of you on the subject of the constatine matter. lol@ your claims. get your facts right. now you're the one who can be called ignorant. since you believe you are the only one to state claims, asumptions, theories, stories and myths as fact. and by the way trying to insult my intelligence is just a sign that you are truely beaten in this debate. awww insults the last resort of a beaten man.

[orangestar]

Originally posted by misterX
ok. now with the quote by Socrates. just because someone says something catchie, doesn't make it true. and as far as the moon goes. if the earth was hit by a object big enough and hard enough to displace a mass as big as the moon it would have destroyed it. and lets say it didn't destroy it. if the earth was hit by a object hard enough to make a mass as big as that break the gravitaional pull of the earth. the earth would not be able to hold it in place. the moon would totaly escape the earths pull. its just simple reasoning. but most atheist are too retarded, to think for themselves, you sit there and absorb anything that would try and discredit the excistance of god like the blind sheep you are. same with the elephants. i'm still looking for that proof, because it was a number of years since i read about it. But in the mean time think about it. do you think animals with as much intelligence as a elephant or dolphin etc. don't know they will die? and not just from a accident or from a predator? come on you stupid atheist sheep think for yourself for once. and speaking of making claims with out any proof. how do you know god doesnt excist? like you claimed in your post? o and i don't see you replying to my discrediting of you on the subject of the constatine matter. lol@ your claims. get your facts right. now you're the one who can be called ignorant. since you believe you are the only one to state claims, asumptions, theories, stories and myths as fact. and by the way trying to insult my intelligence is just a sign that you are truely beaten in this debate. awww insults the last resort of a beaten man.

WTF. We're the sheep? I think I remember making a conscious desicion to go AWAY from the pack with becoming an atheist.

Here ya go- Okay. We were wrong on the Constantine thing. Whatever. I accept that. In no way does that prove that there is a God.

Also, you just called us stupid, retarted and sheep, then yelled at us for trying to insult your intelligence. STFU

[misterX]

Originally posted by orangestar
I've read your guy's argument, and here's what it sounds like you're saying:

We have no free will at all. God is making me type this right now, and there is nothing I can do to change anything God says will happen because it's my destiny or whatever and he's perfect so It is, how they say, his way or the highway.

So if we have no free will, then why isnt everyone Christian? Why didnt God just MAKE everyone believe in him? Did he pick and choose people like me and Stingy and Ege to burn in hell for all eternity, because we dont believe in him? Seems like a pretty fucked up God. Not so forgiving after all.

who said you have no freewill? maybe some people are just too stupid to understand what the meaning of a all knowing god means

[orangestar]

Originally posted by misterX
maybe some people are just too stupid to understand what the meaning of a all knowing god means

awww insults the last resort of a beaten man.

thats all that needs to be said.

[misterX]

Originally posted by orangestar
WTF. We're the sheep? I think I remember making a conscious desicion to go AWAY from the pack with becoming an atheist.

Here ya go- Okay. We were wrong on the Constantine thing. Whatever. I accept that. In no way does that prove that there is a God.

Also, you just called us stupid, retarted and sheep, then yelled at us for trying to insult your intelligence. STFU

did stingy go out and test one of these "theories" himself? i bet not. he read them from a book, so yes that makes him as a big a sheep as any christian, even more so as christians are told what god or jesus did. but we also interpit what that means ourselfs. and i don't see any caps?

[orangestar]

Originally posted by misterX
did stingy go out and test one of these "theories" himself? i bet not. he read them from a book, so yes that makes him as a big a sheep as any christian, even more so as christians are told what god or jesus did. but we also interpit what that means ourselfs. and i don't see any caps?

WTF did you just say? Learn some basic grammer, then post.

[misterX]

Originally posted by orangestar
thats all that needs to be said.

did i say YOU was too stupid? no i didn't . are you saying everyone in theworld is smart enough to know whata all knowing god is? surely not. it isn't my fault when i make a general observation that you attribute those observations to yourself is it?

[misterX]

Originally posted by orangestar
WTF did you just say? Learn some basic grammer, then post.

BTW its grammar not grammer. learn to spell before you worry about other peoples education

[orangestar]

Originally posted by misterX
did i say YOU was too stupid? no i didn't . are you saying everyone in theworld is smart enough to know whata all knowing god is? surely not. it isn't my fault when i make a general observation that you attribute those observations to yourself is it?

Yes actually it is your fault. I never said anything about Christians being stupid, retarted, or sheep for believing in God. Just dont resort to name-calling and insults. It just makes you sound immature.

[misterX]

Originally posted by orangestar
Yes actually it is your fault. I never said anything about Christians being stupid, retarted, or sheep for believing in God. Just dont resort to name-calling and insults. It just makes you sound immature.

did i say you? are you paranoid as well as dyslexic?