glorification of violence

[nightbreed]

i feel that natural born killers is a good example of a film that does little but glorify nihilistic violence.

[meetthecreeper]

Sure you can have horror without the violence, but I think there is the perception of violence seen or unseen. I dont think that horror films glorify violence, horror films usually have the bad guy or some form of evil doing all the violence against innocence, whereas action films have the supposed good guys mowing down everyone in a 30 block radius with an UZI. We are supposed to cheer this guy on and root for him but supposed to hope that the bad guy gets it in the end in a horror film. Personally I always root for the killer in a horror film but thats just me.

I think that the whole reason why we have violence in movies is becasue we are all curious about death and this is how we deal with it.

In an action film you can relate to the hero and he can do things in a film that you wish that you could do, like smoking a drug dealer and killing terrorists and shit.

Before modern times we had public executions and people brutally murdered each other with hand weapons. Imagine the battlefields where men fought each other with swords and axes and such. The brutality had to be unbelievable, now with modernization we are able to wipe each other out with the mere push of a button.

So I think that maybe as a society we have become less violent than our previous ancestors. We dont have colloseums anymore where we watch real people killing each other and being thrown to the lions for our entertainment, we just see it on TV.

[massacre man]

ur using big words and big paragraphs

i are confused

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the word i dont understand most is glorificationizationolationizizer thats confusing

[Vodstok]

no movie, music, or other media influences violent or sexual behavior. AND, if they want to blame media, then they should be EDUCATING kids about it, rather than sequestering them from it.
Ever see what happens to kids that are sheltered from sex, their parents dont let them in sex-ed classes and so on?

They usually turn into whores once they DO get exposed to it. Was it the porno little johnny watched that made him want to get into suzy's pants? No, he would have wanted to anyway. Now, if he knew he should protect himself, maybe little suzie wouldnt have had her first kid at 16.

Also, in columbine..... Does anyone really think that the reason those kids thought they could only get back at their scholl was by killing everyone was caused by music, games or movies? NO. They HTAED those people. it doesnt take a violent education to react violently to something that you hate or find frustrating. Ironically, the people who a whining that marilyn manson, doom, or halloween are causing kids to kill are the same people whose great great grandfathers were lynching black people because they were afraid that they were going to lose something if blacks were allowed equality.

Action movies arent any more to blame. dont blame one thing to defend your chosen genre, or you are just as bad as the other retards who blame everthing.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Action movies arent any more to blame. dont blame one thing to defend your chosen genre, or you are just as bad as the other retards who blame everthing.

I do not believe that it is the intention of any member of this forum to blame any manner of media for the violence or degradation of our society, as we here are intelligent, open-minded and enlightened individuals...

I personally, was merely pointing out that while horror movies do contain violence, I do not believe that said violence is glorified, and that if any genre actually "glorifies" violence, it would be that of the "Action Movie" variety...As Creeper also, so eloquently pointed out...As far as where to put the blame when the children go bad...Look at the parents...

No manner of media is responsible for the behavior of our children, and when they reach the age of 18, they are responsible for themselves:)

[meetthecreeper]

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Action movies arent any more to blame. dont blame one thing to defend your chosen genre, or you are just as bad as the other retards who blame everthing. [/B]

Nobody is saying that action films are 2 blame and horror films arent, I was just making an observation between the 2. The fact of the matter is, the sheeple in this country and most of the planet want to do whatever they want and not take responsibility for their actions. Whether it be horror, action, or musicals it doesnt matter the individual has to take it to the next step.

And if you want to throw out the slavery race card, why is it that a minority can commit crimes, father children out of wedlock and so on and then run around whinning about how they have been oppressed all their lives. ITS BS. I have Italian, Irish, and Sioux Indian Heritage. The Romans enslaved the Irish, when the Irish came to america they were denied jobs, same with the Italians, lets not even get started on the Indian thing.

Ever spend time on an Indian Reservation??? It would make the slums of Harlem look like paradise. My ancestors had their land taken from them, and have somewhat been compensated. You know how they take care of what they have?? By dumping their garbage next to their house, by killing every living thing on the reservation. I have done a great deal of hunting in South Dakota on the reservation, have come across dead pronghorn shot for no other reason but sport. rattlesnakes with the heads and tails cut off to make keychains for the damn tourist.

I think I am getting too far off topic but what is their excuse for acting this way??? Its all about personal responsibility which none of them have.

[Sam The Egg]

I think movies and video games should have a "stupid" warning. Like how some games in the arcade have a warning saying that they have flashing lights and people with epilepsy shouldn't play them, so that they won't get sued. Same thing with the stupidity warning. "Stupid people should not watch this movie or play this game".

[PsychoticPanda]

I'm so fuckin' sick of parents blaming video games, movies, and music as their kids influences of stupidity. If someone's too fucking lazy to watch what their kid(s) watch, or just monitor a bit then shit's going to happen. It's the parents fault. You can't blame something else for your own actions. If you think your child is too fucking stupid to know right from wrong while watching a movie, then don't let them watch it!!!!!!!!!!

Like when I was younger I didn't really have any restrictions on what I could watch. Because my parents would usually watch it with me, or trust me to know that gutting people probably isn't such a good idea.

So if some horror movies really do glorify violence, then I don't think it should be a problem if the people who watch it are SMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fluffho]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
As far as where to put the blame when the children go bad...Look at the parents...

rather than putting the blame on movies, media etc people need to take personal responsibility. in the most parts yes parents need to do a better job

the thing is though where does this begin and end? take twins girls, raise them the exact same way, the same food, hair styles clothes.. they will turn out differently. in the end its the person doing the action who needs to take responsibilty.

look at richard ramirez. did his other brothers and sisters end up mutilating people? did they get off on raping women and having them yell i love you satan? nope... just richard.

[Rotting Eye]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I think movies and video games should have a "stupid" warning. Like how some games in the arcade have a warning saying that they have flashing lights and people with epilepsy shouldn't play them, so that they won't get sued. Same thing with the stupidity warning. "Stupid people should not watch this movie or play this game".

I agree. That would only leave.. say maybe a dozen people in an arcade or theatre at any time. And a dozen is being generous.

More play time for me! YAY