Help with a Logline - Part 2

[wufongtan.]

Return does have a point. But I think its a title that can go both ways. Look at usual suspects. Looking at that title you wouldn;t have took it for one of the best crime/gansta/ heist movies of all time. A title like crimes like these leaves the reader/viewer more open minded as what could happen.

[Elvis_Christ]

The Criminal Element is the better of the two IMO. Like The_Return said it Crimes Like These sounds "goofy" and sounds like it'd be more of a comedy.

[bwind22]

I am really appreciating this input so thanks to everyone that has offered advice thus far.

I spent most of my workday trying to think of titles.... Here's my shortlist as of now. Please continue to weigh in...

The Criminal Element
Crimes Like These
The Guilty
The Valley of Hell
In the Valley of Hell

Thoughts? Opinions?

[The_Return]

Still liking The Criminal Element myself...not as derivative as some of the others, fits the tone of your description and almost adds class to it in a way.

Crimes Like These still sounds like a b-grade caper flick.

The Guilty would be my choice for runner up...a bit generic maybe, but it fits what you've got.

Not crazy at all about Valley of Hell. Not sure why, but it just sounds corny to me (applies to both variations, though the second is slightly better IMO).

Just my opinion though - not based on much besides personal preference.

[cheebacheeba]

Guilty: Shades of the criminal element in the valley of the blind.
Heh.
All honesty I don't much like any of the names.

[bwind22]

I'm not thrilled with any of them either. I hate coming up with titles...