Before Damien

[neverending]

Originally Posted by MichaelG

This source contradicts your source.


www.movie666.com/top-666-movie-list

There is no condratiction. The wikipedia article says "she learns her baby is due on June 28, 1966."

A due date and a birth date are not the same thing.

[neverending]

Originally Posted by MichaelG

Thank you.

According to that site, Rosemary's Baby doesnt really count.



And an avant gard film by Kenneth Anger (1972) may have been the first (but it's not clear on whether that film actually contained any direct reference to this number.)

There is no overt reference to the number, but Kenneth Anger was heavily into numerology, alchemy and all sorts of arcane things, so there's no telling what all he may have hidden inside the film. It's been decades since I saw a long cut of the fiolm at a university, and I do remember there was one sequence that showed repeatedly, back to back, because the number had a magical signifigance.

[neverending]

Originally Posted by Robert W

666 has no real magical meaning outside of horror flicks.

As for 1966, this was also the year Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan.

Well, that would be a matter of opinion, wouldn't it? Crowley-ites would certainly dispute that claim.

And 1966- the founding of the Church of Satan- harkens back to the quote from Rosemary's Baby, where the man toasts to 1966- year one.

[Robert W]

Originally Posted by neverending

Well, that would be a matter of opinion, wouldn't it? Crowley-ites would certainly dispute that claim.

And 1966- the founding of the Church of Satan- harkens back to the quote from Rosemary's Baby, where the man toasts to 1966- year one.

Well Crowley was a RHP practitioner. His use of LHP imagery had no real place in his magical curriculum, aside from the "shock value" he derived from calling himself the Beast 666.

But as far as 666 goes,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

The association with 666 and the Christian antichrist really has more to do Hollywood than any actual black magical practices.

And indeed, 1966 was A.S. Year One.

[neverending]

And your point is?


I thought you were trying to find out which film had the first reference to 666.

[MichaelG]

Originally Posted by neverending

And your point is?


I thought you were trying to find out which film had the first reference to 666.

I'm not Robert W., and I am trying to find out which film made the first overt reference.

I would agree that the number has no real magical significance, but it seems to have been generally viewed as bad luck long before 1976, and I'm interested in any cinematic connection.

(What you said about the Kenneth Anger film was interesting, and I thank you--but I have no way to research that further.)

There's suppose to be a gypsy scam involving 666, and gypsies were stereotyped in a number of old horror films.

Could there be anything there?

I even remember an old WWII era movie short having to do with the devil and Hitler (the devil was played by a fairly prominent actor, was waiting for Hitler, and was a little upset at the way he was running the war "up there"), but I don't think there was any reference to this "unholy" number.

Anyway, I do appreciate all comments here.

Thank you.

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