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Old 08-04-2006, 09:31 AM
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The thing is, Words can hurt; they are very powerful. if you dont believe me, look at Erik Harris and Dillon kleibold. It wasnt much more than words that sent them over the edge. granted, bullets hurt worse, but i think that was their point.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:37 AM
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gibson - no doubt. getting drunk is no big deal to me (as i am usually in the same pursuit) - looking for sex is about the same (i'm not gay and don't seek anonymous sex but if that's what someone is into and its consenting adults - cool)

gibson blew it on two fronts - first drivig while drunk is way outside the line - no excuses for that; second, hate and intolerance are horrific and pathetic
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:08 AM
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Words can hurt; they are very powerful. if you dont believe me, look at Erik Harris and Dillon kleibold. It wasnt much more than words that sent them over the edge. granted, bullets hurt worse, but i think that was their point.
I take your point.

But, what I would say is that a lot of people (if not most) have been bullied in some form during their lives, certainly most people I know or have known, and I would guess that the majority of people on this board have experienced something that they regard as bullying.

My point is this: it takes a particular kind of person to take bullying/name calling and use it as a fuel for murder. People with that kind of instability - if it wasn't one thing it would be another.

I'm not saying that Gibson's words weren't wrong - they were, but they were just words. If someone now kills Gibson as a result of him insulting Jews, then that person would have most probably tipped over the edge because of something else somewhere down the line.

If Gibson had beaten somebody, and then said: "That's because you're a Jew," then that's one thing, but to be drunk and shoot your mouth off, and then be attacked from all sides by a group of people who are infamously vocal anyway (I'm not criticising, that's just the way it is), is not cause to be caught in this maelstrom of hate.

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Old 08-04-2006, 01:09 PM
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Also good points. I like it when subjects like this can be the subject of intelligent discussion rather than a bunch of people getting emotional and spouting off names.
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