will horror movies ever be respected?

[urgeok]

the 70's had a hell of a lot more going for it than halloween..

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by urgeok
the 70's had a hell of a lot more going for it than halloween..

What? Not really.. Unless you count

Dawn of the dead
Crazies
Last house on the left
the hills have eyes
Alien
When a stranger Calls
Carrie
Suspiria
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Exorcist
The omen
Play Misty For me
The Amityville Horror
Jaws


should i continue?


Obviously, this want aimed at urge... alky you twit...

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by urgeok
the 70's had a hell of a lot more going for it than halloween..

Listen, I was just trying to make a point...

I put one movie down for each era.

I could go on for pages about the 70s, which was my favorite era.

And yes, the 00s had some good ones. But even still. Two of the five you mentioned weren't even American.

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
And yes, the 00s had some good ones. But even still. Two of the five you mentioned weren't even American.

How is that relevant?

Where it is from has nothing to do with the quality.

[tarcher80]

i think it gets the respect it deserves from the small pool of knowledgeable film critics that respect it as a genre, follow? the rest can stew in their own shit :D

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Vodstok
How is that relevant?

Where it is from has nothing to do with the quality.

Basically I'm trying to point out that American cinema is taking the horror genre less and less seriously, and it's becoming more of a business. I have nothing against foreign horror. I'm just trying to keep with the theme of American horror, and I'm saying that the only three we can think of right now are American Psycho, The Devil's Rejects, and Shadow of the Vampire (which was mediocre).

No hard feelings, guys, just trying to make a point.



And I'm fuming about the 70s shit. I totally respect the 70s, as I said before, it's my favorite era! I was putting down one film from each era, and Halloween is the undisputed most commercially popular horror flick of that decade.

[urgeok]

its funny but i dont even think of halloween as a 70's movie ..
i think its a good movie but i think it's success opened the floodgates for the cheap ass 80s slasher flicks that soon followed.

Black Christmas was a 70's slasher ..
that still feels like a 70's film


when i think of 70's i think of the possession films

Rosemary's Baby (i know it's '68)
The Mephisto Waltz
The Exorcist
Reincarnation of Peter Proud
The Possession of Joel Delaney


etc, etc...

there was a certain grainy, gritty feel to those films .. they had a sort of 'weight' to them...


in my thinking i dont date movies by the exact time of release - more the feel and atmosphere of the film ..

a couple of years on either end dont matter.

(eg. hippies carried over beyond the 60's .. they didnt cease to exist January 1 1970)

[Zero]

i think there is more respect than there used to be. . . at least in academic cricles you see more serious treatments of popular horror as legitimate art form. . . there are good books on horror and philosophy (Noel Carrol's Philosophy of Horror; Cynthia Freedland's The Naked and the Undead) and history (Kendall Phillips' Projected Fears or Andrew Tudor's Monsters and Mad Scientists) . . . so I think people are starting to recognize horror as important

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by urgeok
in my thinking i dont date movies by the exact time of release - more the feel and atmosphere of the film ..

I absolutely understand, respect, and even agree with your thinking.

I'm just saying, anyone over the age of 13 has seen Halloween, no matter their taste of movies. It's (with the exception of maybe The Exorcist) the most known.


You and I might think of Black Christmas, but the majority of the population thinks of halloween.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Zero
i think there is more respect than there used to be. . . at least in academic cricles you see more serious treatments of popular horror as legitimate art form. . . there are good books on horror and philosophy (Noel Carrol's Philosophy of Horror; Cynthia Freedland's The Naked and the Undead) and history (Kendall Phillips' Projected Fears or Andrew Tudor's Monsters and Mad Scientists) . . . so I think people are starting to recognize horror as important

i think they recognize the impact on the genre in society .

"why do we seek it out, rollercoaster phenomenon, etc .."

but i agree that 90% of movie goers arent horror fans .. at least not once past their teens.

i also think that the people who are dedicated to horror ONLY are some of the most sad individuals on the planet.

So yeah, some learned folks are interested in the interest of horror - but not so much the genre as a whole.

trust me - these are my peers - i know.
these guys think horror movies are stupid .. and its because they've had too much exposure to horror movies that are stupid .. or they just have no need for fantasy/escapism in their lives ..