Revenge !!

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by urgeok

i dont think rehabilitation - for serious criminals - is a possibility.
its like trying to cure 'gay'.

some people live in the dark ages... they still see the city the way primitives saw the jungle - take what you want - kill whoever is in your way.

if i thought for a second that you could get anywhere near even a 50% success rate in rehabilitating sociopaths i'd be mightily suprised.
(i'm not talking about someone who made a stupid mistake - i'm talking about life timers)

and the reason that killing people is more expensive than keeping them alive in the penal system .. thats the fault of the system ..

how expensive is it to kill cows ? cant be more than the price of the beef - that wouldnt be cost effective !

Correct. Especially when they are diagnosed as sociopaths, there is no "back" to go to, they were broken from the beginning. Sociopaths dont feel sympathy or empathy. Read up on Edmund Kemper and see what a serial killer does as a kiod when he's being "rehabilitated". He took notes and became a really efficient killer. And he didnt exactly blend in, he is 6' 8" and wears coke bottle glasses.

[novakru]

Originally Posted by urgeok

abusive husbands are in the process of murdering their wives .. only they take their time.

I never thought of it like that.
Very true!

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by urgeok

how expensive is it to kill cows ? cant be more than the price of the beef - that wouldnt be cost effective !

Nobody gives a fuck about cows though. (nobody listens to hippies) With humans you have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they are GUILTY so you can execute them. It costs big bucks :rolleyes:

I don't believe in laws. If there were no laws, think of the money that would be saved. The death penalty wouldn't cost a dime... Vote me for world president :)

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by Despare

Did you read what I said about Saw Muder? We can't just exact revenge withouth a trial and proof because people react too quickly to what they see and often times they could take revenge in cases where they were wrong to do so. Acting on impulse is never a good idea. In the revenge flicks we KNOW the bad guy deserves it in a lot of movies, real life isn't like that. Kill em' cheap and kill em' quick if there's indisputable evidence they deserve it.

and a lot of times when there is pressure to make an arrest police will take anyone down for a serious crime.

fuckin pigs. ;)

[Despare]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

and a lot of times when there is pressure to make an arrest police will take anyone down for a serious crime.

fuckin pigs. ;)

Yep, but without laws there wouldn't be crooked cops or a crooked government to blame our problems on and we would have to answer for what we did. :eek:

[urgeok]

also - to address the point that comes up a lot ..

what about someone being condemmed to death wrongfully ..

i'm pretty sure thats pretty damn rare .. and gets rarer still with the progression of techlology in forensics.

its insanely hard to prove a murderer guilty - no matter how much damning evidence there is. (just ask OJ)

ssomeone innocent falling through the cracks - i cant see it happening anywhere near as much as the murderers that go scott free - or are given a joke sentance.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by urgeok

ssomeone innocent falling through the cracks - i cant see it happening anywhere near as much as the murderers that go scott free - or are given a joke sentance.

so killing a murderer is more important than saving a victim?

oh and rich people don't fry :)

[urgeok]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

so killing a murderer is more important than saving a victim?

honestly ..i dont think it will ever happen in this day and age.

but the question is a tough one ...

on one hand - i know that if the police pick up someone for a crime (and they are innocent of this particular crime) they are suspect because they are bad people with similar records.

i know i'm not painting myself as a very humane person - but so be it .. i fucking hate destructive criminals... predators. people who look at the rest of us as cattle .. rubes to be taken advantage of. fuck i hate them beyond words can describe.

while i spend all my time and energy trying to make a living for my family - slaving at a 9-5 job that isnt particularily rewarding other than financially - there are these fuckbags waiting for a chance to simply take it away.

there are also those that would happily hurt my family in ways i dont want to think about ... its just the world in which these people live ... in the edge of the woods...

yeah - i want horrible things to happen to the career thieves, pedophiles, rapists and murderers...

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

My older brother is being charged with drug trafficking and criminal negligence resulting in death. Him and two other people sold drugs out of their apartment, the other two people got off scot free because they could afford lawyers. The legal aid that was appointed to my brother didn't even believe that a lot of kids smoked marijuana. A 13 year old girl died out of pretty much her own stupidity and ignorance, but of course she's the victim. What happened is that she called another drug dealer and begged him to come down and sell her some exstacy. So he drives down and sells it to her, awhile later she calls again and tells him it's not working and to bring her more. She died because she was also drinking heavily and she pretty much passed out and rapid dehydrated herself. So this guy who is 22 was also having sex with her, he gets out of jail time for naming my brother.

Of course, society needs a pure good and a pure evil person at a time like this. So the 13 year old dumb slut (I can't feel bad when people die when it's their own damn fault,sorry)is the pure and good person, and my big brother is of course the pure and evil person. Everyone is shouting monster and I'm sure some people would want him to fry, he's on the verge of killing himself and he's almost definitely getting jail time.

I say if we're going to be advanced, step out of this black and white thinking
if we want to be animals (I think we do), take away the laws.


I think it's completely unbelievable that they could even attach this girl to him in anyway... fucktards. You know why? People demanded to see someone go down hard for it. As long as they think he's repsonsible they can sleep easy.

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

My older brother is being charged with drug trafficking and criminal negligence resulting in death. Him and two other people sold drugs out of their apartment, the other two people got off scot free because they could afford lawyers. The legal aid that was appointed to my brother didn't even believe that a lot of kids smoked marijuana. A 13 year old girl died out of pretty much her own stupidity and ignorance, but of course she's the victim. What happened is that she called another drug dealer and begged him to come down and sell her some exstacy. So he drives down and sells it to her, awhile later she calls again and tells him it's not working and to bring her more. She died because she was also drinking heavily and she pretty much passed out and rapid dehydrated herself. So this guy who is 22 was also having sex with her, he gets out of jail time for naming my brother.

Of course, society needs a pure good and a pure evil person at a time like this. So the 13 year old dumb slut (I can't feel bad when people die when it's their own damn fault,sorry)is the pure and good person, and my big brother is of course the pure and evil person. Everyone is shouting monster and I'm sure some people would want him to fry, he's on the verge of killing himself and he's almost definitely getting jail time.

I say if we're going to be advanced, step out of this black and white thinking
if we want to be animals (I think we do), take away the laws.

With any luck, your brother will come out of this knowing better than to be involved in selling drugs. If he was selling drugs to minors, then i dont fell anything for him.

Sure, she may have been a dumb 13 year old, but she was just a kid, and kids are allowed to be dumb, its how they learn. someone screwed up and didnt steer her in the right direction, so while she could think for herself, she was hardly a responsible human being. That is why 13 year olds dont have driver's licenses or automatic firearms.