ET phone .....Vatican..lol

[Ferox13]

Found the unicorn bit:

In Job 39:9-12 God asks, "Will the unicorn be willing to serve you, or abide by your crib? Can you bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after you? Wilt you trust him, because his strength is great?"

Not sure where they still stand with Unicorns.

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by neverending

Slow day at the Vatican?

showing there arrogance again by commenting on something they have no business being involved in.

I dont necesarrily think that science and religion should be mutually exclusive, but let me just say, i would not ask a volcanologist (for example) to weigh in on a spiritual or moral issue.

[Ferox13]

showing there arrogance again by commenting on something they have no business being involved in.

I dont necesarrily think that science and religion should be mutually exclusive, but let me just say, i would not ask a volcanologist (for example) to weigh in on a spiritual or moral issue.

Its even more than that though..

I could be wroong but since the formation of the catholic church have they ever made one statement about aliens/ETs etc. I don't think they have. But now the whole evolution vs Inteligent design date has emerged - i think this is just another stab at the God is a scientist theme...

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

showing there arrogance again by commenting on something they have no business being involved in.

I dont necesarrily think that science and religion should be mutually exclusive, but let me just say, i would not ask a volcanologist (for example) to weigh in on a spiritual or moral issue.

Wait a second, you're saying somebody who is deeply religious and committed to the church of their denomination cannot pursue and achieve a degree in anything they're interested in? The religion has no bearing on the skill of the astronomer. I wonder if it was Funes...

"The Vatican operates a telescope on one of the highest peaks in Arizona and it is utilized by a group of Jesuit priests/scientists, Father Jose Funes being one of them.

Funes, an astronomer and a Jesuit priest, is one of a dozen scientists, most of them Jesuits, associated with the Vatican Observatory Research Group that operate the Arizona telescope and engages in advanced astrophysics, cosmology and galactic and extragalactic research.

The Catholic Church engages in scientific research and these Jesuit scientists continue to show that the gap between science and religion can be bridged and that there need not be any conflict. These priests however have shared the view of many that creationism or ID has no place in a science classroom. Father Funes states:“When I teach at the University of Arizona, I tell students, I am a priest, a Jesuit, but my class is a science class ... and Science is about natural, not supernatural causes.”

Funes is mapping the formation and evolution of galaxies within 100 million light years of Earth. By the time the project is completed, he will have observed about 400 galaxies.

The telescope on Mt. Graham, a 10,700-foot peak, was inaugurated in September 1993. It was the first telescope in the world to use a mirror spun from a ceramic mold, a technique pioneered at the University of Arizona. A few yards away, the university has its own much larger double telescope with two giant mirrors that act like binoculars that can pull in images sharp enough to read a newspaper 5 miles away."

[Ferox13]

The religion has no bearing on the skill of the astronomer.

Nope but his statement is that as a representive of the Catholic church..And its not like a commentry track where they say his views aren't those of Anchor Bay or what ever...

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Nope but his statement is that as a representive of the Catholic church..And its not like a commentry track where they say his views aren't those of Anchor Bay or what ever...

That's ok, it's like an expert witness. If I employed a seismologist I would let him speak on my behalf about the real strength of China's last earthquake...

[PhilmPhanMan]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Yup - the Pope and his Krew just came out said that they think aliens might exist..



Wow the pope has his own chief astronomer...



Way to shit on us homosapiens - no original sin for those guys. Is it the lack of water on Mars that makes the act of baptism so hard that God gave these guys a pass?

I would love to know how the line of communication between God and Papal father went where the conclusion is that Aliens are now part of the Catholic doctrine.

MR.F13
Please don't think me a know it all POS or someone seeking attention. (although who isn't when we post on public forums? It's pretty obvious that we are all looking for human interaction.)

It's just that I love to communicate with others and frankly people that enjoy a good scare are normally more receptive than the more pedestrian of heart.

This is actually fairly old news. The catholic church as far as public record is concerned has acknowledged at very least the possibility of extraterrestrials for at least the last 20-30 years. The Catholic church as a world power socio political organization will provide a very fundamental introduction to the REALITY of UFOs and the races that pilot them. This being in an effort to prevent world wide panic and the complete breakdown of religious based mass control as it's inevitable.

It would take someone with a colossal amount of blind faith and a complete disregard for objectivity to refute the reality of UFOs at this point. There is just too much militarily/scientifically derived surveillance evidence, mass sightings and credible witnesses at this point. The governmental social powers that be have known for over 50 years that they would have no choice but to sequentially "break it gently" to the world's populous or risk tremendous upheaval as a result of their complete denial.

To give you an idea of just how powerful the media can be as a tool of the government for the sake of information suppression and discredit: Over the last 5-10 years, the former Defense Minister of Canada has been one of the strongest public supporters of the reality of the UFO phenomenon. He has lectured around the globe hand in hand (not gay related) with various high ranking members of both publicly and privately recognized intelligentsia think tanks. This being in an effort to further expand the scientific studies of UFOs among very credible researchers and institutions (not that kind). Many of these think tank members include current high level intelligence agents, retired air force officers(globally networked with other countries), astronauts & highly accredited scientists of every walk. It's cool shit and the coolest thing is that it's most definitely 4real.

[The_Return]

I went to the Vatican a couple months back...buddy of mine stole shit from the giftshop.

[pinkfloyd45769]

I try to keep an open mind and i know there are things that have no explanation and may never.I'm just a person that needs proof(not some fake ass crop circles)that aliens or whatever exsist.I'm not trying to piss anyone off or whatever,its just how i look at things.The Mothman is big shit where i live.Everyone,old and young,think they have seen it.There are so many dumbasses with a video camera trying to catch a glimpse.I've heard all the stories,watched the shitty movie,ad been to our little museum..still i do not believe it.If the thing came down and shit on my head,i would believe its real.I'm just saying i need proof.

[Ferox13]

MR.F13
Please don't think me a know it all POS or someone seeking attention.

DAmn - why would i do that - the opposite, i welcome what u add to to this.

This is actually fairly old news. The catholic church as far as public record is concerned has acknowledged at very least the possibility of extraterrestrials for at least the last 20-30 years. The Catholic church as a world power socio political organization will provide a very fundamental introduction to the REALITY of UFOs and the races that pilot them.

Wow - this is news to me (not that I've any knowledge on the subject) but I have never heard a single statement made by the Church with regard to Aliens. Would you have any references/links to this.

I guess it does make sense (though I'm not 100% in agreement that it takes a colossal amount of blind faith and a complete disregard for objectivity not to believe) in that the Church has to move with the times. It wasn't that long ago that they believed in burning heretics alive..

I wonder if it was Funes...

Yup named him in the first post:


'Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space.'