Worrying Censorship Developments At Hdc

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by monalisa

Haven't been here in a little while and I just wanted to say, I liked omcdave. If he was banned, so be it. But to erase all of his posts as if he never existed? Unless it was to regain some server space or something similar, that's a little scary. 'nuff said.

WOW...I don't even know how to respond to that...

Originally Posted by ferretchucker

this is getting like the renob hysteria. We all hated him and wanted to forget. But even months after, his name kept popping up. Can we all leave this thread alone and forget about him?

Renob was just an idiot...Not worth mentioning over and over

But...These others...They're dangerous...BIG difference...Kids need to be aware of this shit...It's obvious that their parents aren't protecting them, so they need to learn how to protect themselves

[PR3SSUR3]

That was one of my original questions, and I think I saw somewhere that when someone is banned, their posts are deleted.

Is this another change since the upgrades, because there are plenty of posts remaining from other banned members?

I guess since the revelations, you would have a hard time defending those concerned at all really - including the deleting of their posts.

Personally I would have left them, since they aren't a threat to anybody and make certain threads a little out of context where the villains are quoted or replied to - and the 'Banned' heading under the names would be justice shown to be done.

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

Is this another change since the upgrades, because there are plenty of posts remaining from other banned members?

Actually started with the Renob garbage...And, if I could remove all of their quoted responses, I would

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

Personally I would have left them, since they aren't a threat to anybody and make certain threads a little out of context

I'm sorry...I just can't count that as important as cleaning the scum out of the forum

[swiss tony]

god, can you imagine being a new member and reading this thread in its entirety shortly after leaving the new member lounge. as the subject seems to be fairly exhausted maybe a thread removal could be the next step in damage limitation. having this thread is the next most damaging thing to inviting those guys back. time to draw a line under it methinks

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by swiss tony

god, can you imagine being a new member and reading this thread in its entirety shortly after leaving the new member lounge. as the subject seems to be fairly exhausted maybe a thread removal could be the next step in damage limitation. having this thread is the next most damaging thing to inviting those guys back. time to draw a line under it methinks

It's a double-edged sword actually

Do we leave it to remind kids of the dangers on the internet, urge them to contact someone if they are approached in this way and to let any potential new predators know that they aren't welcome here?

Or...Do we remove it to avoid embarassment, and try to 'make it go away'?

This isn't the ONLY forum where things like this happen

[swiss tony]

Originally Posted by bloodrayne

It's a double-edged sword actually

Do we leave it to remind kids of the dangers on the internet, urge them to contact someone if they are approached in this way and to let any potential new predators know that they aren't welcome here?

Or...Do we remove it to avoid embarassment, and try to 'make it go away'?

This isn't the ONLY forum where things like this happen

how many times has it happened here or is it likely to happen here? impossible to say but relatively speaking, very seldom. its not like we are at youngandimpressionable.com. we had a problem and it was dealt with. i think the mods handled it just right, so what better argument could there be for maintaining the status quo? you can't safegaurd every eventuality

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by swiss tony

how many times has it happened here or is it likely to happen here? impossible to say but relatively speaking, very seldom. its not like we are at youngandimpressionable.com. we had a problem and it was dealt with. i think the mods handled it just right, so what better argument could there be for maintaining the status quo? you can't safegaurd every eventuality

The moderators are in consultation on this matter...:)

Looks like it's gonna go

[monalisa]

Originally Posted by newb

No....the scary thing is what he and Trip were up to.

I say Damn them to hell.

Holy crap! What did I miss? What did they do? If it shouldn't be repeated on the forum, will someone please PM me? I've been dealing with health issues with both my dad and myself, so I haven't been on for a little while.

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by dirge

Censorship is needed, case in point:


http://forums.horrormovies.com/viewt...=179493#179493

*sigh*

Okay, if this is one of our guys (and I admit, it most likely is), they should know that there's a right way to do something and a wrong way

Animosity for this sort of thing is understandable but we should be able to deal with it with a modicum of maturity and decorum

We shouldn't cause problems for another forum just because they're now saddled with this...They are going to have enough on their hands dealing with this as it is

I obviously can't (won't) ask someone to behave a certain way outside of our forum, but I do ask that you consider the shoe on the other foot...We wouldn't appreciate it if someone did this over here

Again...I understand where it's coming from (I REALLY do) but the proper way to handle this is to inform their administration, and even individual members in private, if you feel that they may be at risk...

But, the best thing to do is just to leave it alone, and let them handle it

Come on, Guys...Even though the rest of the 'net community may disagree, we really are better than this

[newb]

here ya go Mona

Originally Posted by AsylumSeeker

I'm sorry I've been working 12+ hour days and haven't had a chance to post before this. Dave and company are some strange and scary people who were harassing and freaking out female members. When I came in here brand new and knew absolutely nothing about what was going on and who was who, Dave was very welcoming. I received tons of p.m.s welcoming me and encouraging me to visit "his" J horror board along with a lot telling me who the idiots and jerks were from the old group and how he and his friends were simply being abused for no good reason. I also got them from Trippin, who seemed another very nice and welcoming member. It seemed he doth protest too much about how he was the glue who held this site together, but I honestly thought he and a couple of his cohorts were like that loud, drunk aunt at the wedding who embarasses and annoys everyone, but are basically harmless.

As I was on the site more and more, I noticed that they were simply stirring crap with every member they could. Any, and I do mean ANY, topic was cause for a meeting of the minds with this crew to see how they could agitate. The Yahoo messenger burned alot of bandwidth for them to come up with ways to harass and irritate anyone and everyone, but especially the mods and the people who had been here any length of time. That was their point for being here. Nothing else. It was all about irritating people they felt had wronged them. They would hop on new people after the first post and try to get you to defend them and what wonderful, wronged people they were.

I made the mistake of getting into yahoo with Dave one night when he said he wanted to talk to me about something. He started a multi-chat, pulling in several cohorts whom I had not spoken to on or off the boards. One member activated his webcam on which he, pretty regularly, shows his penis. I was not the first invitee to this little show. Apparently several underage girls who frequented the site had also been invited at one time or another prompting the "why being a pervert pedophile is okay" speech. I believe there were warnings, etc. at that point, to which they took great umbrage. Well, if a 14 year old girl wants to look at a 30-some year old man jerking off, why should HDC care that that's where they were targeted...prudes!! They were pictures of men....err...at the completion stage of....pleasuring themselves being sent around. I declined and logged...fast and left them with the thought that if they sent me a picture of that nature, they had better keep a copy because after what I would do to their testicles, they would need it to remember when their plumbing functioned.

Of course this was followed up with a post on the boards about how much he enjoyed our conversation, then 4 or so p.m.s about how he sincerely hoped I wasn't offended. They are just open minded and a little wierd and like to talk about sex. Since then I haven't been on this site because, frankly, with this bunch of freaks and perverts I figured I would just go gently into that goodnight and say the hell with this place. I mean, between the boards being loaded with them posting the most inane drivel on purpose just to try and ruin the board, what's the use of fighting the uphill battle.

For those that defend Dave and think his posting idiocy is not bannable, think again. How many people who would be good, fun, knowlegeable contributors to this site never even bother to register because a quick trip through the boards is nothing but vapid drivel and constant conversation about why certain people shouldn't get banned? The only reason I made it that far was that it honestly seemed to me that this was not approved of, in general. Do you think that people posting endlessly about how they want to be banned and how they are just assholes, they can't help themselves and they will do it again, is really a good way to attract people you'd ever want to talk to?

In addition, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has been invited to these little parties from here, then harassed here for saying, okay you sick freaks, if you all want to sit around all night and look at each other's schlongs, have a ball, but leave me out of it. I'm pretty sure the mods have a long list. Especially since I didn't even contact the mods.

Censorship sounds very scary and Orwellian and everyone goes into apoplexy about how they are being repressed. What's worse is when you have a small number of people, most who have been banned before (and are exploiting the lack of an ISP block) come back under another name to create trouble and basically kill the board to settle old scores. They were already banned and came right out and said I'm back under another name to cause trouble. Banning is the only possible option.

As for Dave and everyone being against him because he's Korean and can't spell..err...Dave has been in the states his whole life. He graduated from school here and he lives in California. He's just illiterate. I'm sorry, if you can't sing, don't stand up at karaoke and if you can't spell or type coherent sentences, stay off of boards where coherent writing is a prerequisite!!