al Zarqawi Thread

[yourlastmistake]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
[B]No it isn't - it's the Nick Berg footage I am talking about.

Since you brought it up, the Pearl and other murders also show signs of manipulation.

This leads to the logical conclusion that none of these death films are authentic. Not one of them is a straightforward single take, and the argument that each video has a legitimate reason to be broken up at a significant point but is still genuine does not stand up.

In the case of the Berg footage, there is a leap forward of several hours in the video clock from 'attack' to 'decapitation', a deliberately awkward zoom/refocus allowing the disguised editing of the material (i.e. body swapping and/or special effects) and of course the medical logic that a living head could not be swiftly sawn off with such a small knife and produce so little blood.

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What are you talking about ? There is alot of blood in the Nick Berg video. It flows across the floor as Zarqawi saws through his neck. You can hear Nick grunting. After removing the head Zarqawi holds the head up in front of the camera. Then the scene cuts to the head sitting on his body with the knife next to it. As far as the knife being small so what, the blade was sharp. You dont need a large knife. I take it you've never been hunting and dismembered a deer.
What other manipulated videos have you seen pressure and what is your point? Are you trying to say that Zarqawi and his men were not as ruthless and savage as they seem to be? You really think they removed the heads after they killed their victims for what reason? Because they have a heart? What's your point Pressure ? For you to state that none of these videos are authentic is just not true. Especially when beheading is the accepted form of execution in the Muslim world.

[PR3SSUR3]

The point is the videos are not the authentic acts of decapitation they are widely perceived to be. If this is put to you, you can either agree, say 'so what?' or offer your own explaination of why the films have been cut.

Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl, Eugene Armstrong and Jack Hensley are enough examples. They are all justifiably open to speculation since each of these films has been edited to allow plenty of opportunity to apply deception.

The militants learned enough from the Berg production to make sure their on-screen clock was turned off in future, but that did not deter their manipulation of sound (that any screams and protests heard must irrefutably be coming from the victims is hardly the case) nor persistence of jarring zooms and refocus utilised in every single one of these films between the points of attack and decapitation. There is no logical reason for a filmmaker to want to stop the action and make a cut at the most significant moment of the entire event other than for fabrication purposes.

There are live hostages in the scenes, there are dead bodies and there are severed heads. Because you may have sawn off a deer's head with a hunting knife does not override the factors I have laid out above.

The abductors and killers want to appear as ruthless and efficient as they possibly can - that is their motive, that is their propoganda.

[yourlastmistake]

Fine, we are all entitled to our own opinions besides "staged" videos don't change the fact that they are ruthless killers. It's obvious they will stop at nothing to achieve their goal, even if it means killing fellow muslims and innocent civilians.
One last thing, I also read an article about the beheadings being staged according to some supposed experts. They also stated that Zarqawi was probably not responsible because he had been killed in a airstrike that previous April.

[yourlastmistake]

Sorry double post.