Worrying Censorship Developments At Hdc

[Despare]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

A questionable decision once again to censor this thread, since now it seems nobody is any longer allowed to bear witness to the full build up of a serious discussion - only be shown certain modified statements and outcomes as deemed appropriate by those in charge.

This false utopia-seeking mission might suit the younger, more impressionable and idealistic members of the foum who 'just want it all to go away', but it is a little patronising to the rest of us - and probably more likely to leave a nasty aftertaste about the whole thing.

However while it smacks of Nazi book burning, the overall 'look' of the forum is obviously more important to the administrators than lack of censorship, so we will have to accept it - at least the original title of this thread has regained its significance.

What makes you think anybody but Horror himself has any "rights" on this forum? It's owned by one person and moderated by a few people chosen by him. If a moderator feels the need to edit or remove a post then it's their decision. Send a PM to Horror about how you feel and if he feels something wrong has been done then maybe there will be some action in a few months.

[PR3SSUR3]

What makes you think anybody but Horror himself has any "rights" on this forum? It's owned by one person and moderated by a few people chosen by him. If a moderator feels the need to edit or remove a post then it's their decision. Send a PM to Horror about how you feel and if he feels something wrong has been done then maybe there will be some action in a few months

Nobody mentioned 'rights', except in my original post about the rights of the governing few who are able to delete posts and people at their discretion.

A message forum is about a two-way understanding between the site owners/moderators and the participants. I was under the impression people who use this site understand they can have their posts viewed, so long as they are not blatantly offensive or against specific site rules. It is not a privilege to have your voice heard here. Take away this service too often, and people with leave the forum - the forum is nothing without people.

This issue concerns everyone here, so it is not a PM matter.

[Posher778]

So, you think that dave's voice should have been *heard*?

[PR3SSUR3]

Although his exit inspired it, Dave and the others were gone before this thread was conceived so there was no danger of that here.

I mentioned (if the post still exists) that I personally would not have deleted his comments since very few of them seemed particularly offensive. I also asked how many people made a fuss of his - in hindsight - occasionally rather dubious references at the time.

However the moderators exercised their to remove Dave and his posts, given what transpired. No contributors to this thread are guity of the same behaviour, however.

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Man, I always knew that dude (DJ) was an ass, but I never knew he was doing that kind of shit... :mad:

I'm glad that a a lot of this stuff is taken care of...I wish he could be prosecuted for doing these things to young girls, because god knows what he's doing now, or how far he has taken this perversion... :mad:

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

A questionable decision once again to censor this thread, since now it seems nobody is any longer allowed to bear witness to the full build up of a serious discussion - only be shown certain modified statements and outcomes as deemed appropriate by those in charge.

This false utopia-seeking mission might suit the younger, more impressionable and idealistic members of the foum who 'just want it all to go away', but it is a little patronising to the rest of us - and probably more likely to leave a nasty aftertaste about the whole thing.

However while it smacks of Nazi book burning, the overall 'look' of the forum is obviously more important to the administrators than lack of censorship, so we will have to accept it - at least the original title of this thread has regained its significance.

This thread will soon be closed...We decided to leave it here to let people know what happened, and to allow anyone else who may have been affected by this to tell their story...So, the only posts that now MATTER in this thread, will be posts that pertain to what happened...It was shortened to make it more 'to the point' for anyone who may want (need) this information...Nothing important was removed...Posts that were editted, were editted to remove quotes from posts (or comments toward posts) that are no longer here, so that the context would make sense...

It was decided that we would do THIS, rather than delete the ENTIRE thread (which is also, well within our rights)...No one's voice was stifled...No one's opinion was stymied

Not ONE person's comments were removed because of something they said, or an opinion they had...Editting is NOT 'censoring'...Ever see any 'cut scenes' in a movie?...They are usually removed because they are deemed unnecessary, not because they are considered 'offensive' to anyone


I'll remind everyone, one more time...We do not lock the doors here...If you don't like the way we do things here...You can leave

[Dante'sInferno]

Like someone said before,he targets boys too.He sent me a penis picture on MSN.About a year ago,i was going through a difficult time,so he talked to me.I felt comfortable,then he started talking about fantasies...and all of that shit.I was the one who help mona_lisa,he....stated,he would lick the cum off of me,when i got done having intercourse.Thats when i stopped talking to him.But then about 3 months ago,i saw him flirting with bloody_desire...i wanted to say something,but i think someone already did at that time.She was i think....14?I hope he didnt do anything with her.But im just telling you,your not the alone one.But,for everyone who has been through this,confess.I had to confess when i was 11 for what my step-father did to me,i know your scared at first.But once you tell someone,you feel better and protected.No one will say anything bad to you,just come foward.

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno

Like someone said before,he targets boys too.He sent me a penis picture on MSN.About a year ago,i was going through a difficult time,so he talked to me.I felt comfortable,then he started talking about fantasies...and all of that shit.I was the one who help mona_lisa,he....stated,he would lick the cum off of me,when i got done having intercourse.Thats when i stopped talking to him.But then about 3 months ago,i saw him flirting with bloody_desire...i wanted to say something,but i think someone already did at that time.She was i think....14?I hope he didnt do anything with her.But im just telling you,your not the alone one.But,for everyone who has been through this,confess.I had to confess when i was 11 for what my step-father did to me,i know your scared at first.But once you tell someone,you feel better and protected.No one will say anything bad to you,just come foward.

I'm sorry that happened to you...I hope that you can get past it and not think about it, although I know that isn't easy

You're right...It does help to get it out...It's good to let everyone know that they weren't the only ones, so they won't think that it was somehow their fault, or because of something they did or said

I was constantly trying to get BloodyDesire to stop (she was 13 when she FIRST came here)...I warned her of the dangers...She persisted, until she left...Lots of people left after he 'messed' with them...I'm glad that those of you who stayed, decided to stay, even though it was very difficult

You guys have a lot of guts to come out and share these stories...And you're also helping other people by doing so...Not only are you helping victims, but you're also making it more difficult for the criminals to get away with this...They depend on SECRECY in order to do what they're doing...When all of their secrets are out in the open, they can't really continue to do this

I wanted to add that I'm sorry for not addressing this issue with the guys, and only focusing on the girls...I wasn't aware of anything happening to any of the males at this forum...The girls contacted me, but none of the guys did...I know that this is MUCH more difficult for the males to admit...Please know that I wasn't being insensitive to your situations...I was simply unaware

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by bloodrayne

I'm sorry that happened to you...I hope that you can get past it and not think about it, although I know that isn't easy

You're right...It does help to get it out...It's good to let everyone know that they weren't the only ones, so they won't think that it was somehow their fault, or because of something they did or said

I was constantly trying to get BloodyDesire to stop (she was 13 when she FIRST came here)...I warned her of the dangers...She persisted, until she left...Lots of people left after he 'messed' with them...I'm glad that those of you who stayed, decided to stay, even though it was very difficult

You guys have a lot of guts to come out and share these stories...And you're also helping other people by doing so...Not only are you helping victims, but you're also making it more difficult for the criminals to get away with this...They depend on SECRECY in order to do what they're doing...When all of their secrets are out in the open, they can't really continue to do this

I wanted to add that I'm sorry for not addressing this issue with the guys, and only focusing on the girls...I wasn't aware of anything happening to any of the males at this forum...The girls contacted me, but none of the guys did...I know that this is MUCH more difficult for the males to admit...Please know that I wasn't being insensitive to your situations...I was simply unaware

I think i was next on his list actually. He was starting to get like that over pm's, but nothing too serious... I lucked out.

[Dante'sInferno]

Originally Posted by bloodrayne

I'm sorry that happened to you...I hope that you can get past it and not think about it, although I know that isn't easy

You're right...It does help to get it out...It's good to let everyone know that they weren't the only ones, so they won't think that it was somehow their fault, or because of something they did or said

I was constantly trying to get BloodyDesire to stop (she was 13 when she FIRST came here)...I warned her of the dangers...She persisted, until she left...Lots of people left after he 'messed' with them...I'm glad that those of you who stayed, decided to stay, even though it was very difficult

You guys have a lot of guts to come out and share these stories...And you're also helping other people by doing so...Not only are you helping victims, but you're also making it more difficult for the criminals to get away with this...They depend on SECRECY in order to do what they're doing...When all of their secrets are out in the open, they can't really continue to do this

I wanted to add that I'm sorry for not addressing this issue with the guys, and only focusing on the girls...I wasn't aware of anything happening to any of the males at this forum...The girls contacted me, but none of the guys did...I know that this is MUCH more difficult for the males to admit...Please know that I wasn't being insensitive to your situations...I was simply unaware

Ive gotten over it,as soon as i left california i told my mom,he got 1 year in prison and 6 years probation,this was back in 2000.