Forced Recycling

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by Freak

I think your just lazy.

on the contrary. ;)

[alkytrio666]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

"The issues of space to put this shit comes down to common sense."

thanks for coming out, some how I'm not convinced.

I'm not sure I understand that comment, but I'll dumb it down even more for you.

If you have a room, and you put a lot of shit in that room, especially shit that takes hundreds of years to decompose, eventually that room will fill up.

To be skeptical that the Earth has a limited amount of space to dump our waste just doesn't make any sense- sooner or later we're going to have to come to terms with the fact that in the relatively small amount of time humans have been producing garbage we've filled up quite a bit of land with it. What happens when it runs out?

Outside of the other reasons, that one seems like a pretty basic concept to understand.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by alkytrio666

I'm not sure I understand that comment, but I'll dumb it down even more for you.

If you have a room, and you put a lot of shit in that room, especially shit that takes hundreds of years to decompose, eventually that room will fill up.

To be skeptical that the Earth has a limited amount of space to dump our waste just doesn't make any sense- sooner or later we're going to have to come to terms with the fact that in the relatively small amount of time humans have been producing garbage we've filled up quite a bit of land with it. What happens when it runs out?

Outside of the other reasons, that one seems like a pretty basic concept to understand.

A landfill containing the next 1,000 years' worth of U.S. garbage would occupy less than one-tenth of one percent of the land available.

Source: A. Clark Wiseman, U.S. Wastepaper Recycling Policies: Issues and Effects; Lynn Scarlett, A Consumer's Guide to Environmental Myths and Realities

next time bring me some facts or just stay out because your posts are a waste of time. I'm trying to get an actual discussion going in this thread and your big blotches of text aren't helping at all. ;)

I have to go to work... Flayed or someone please come help this thread out.

[Phalanx]

I recycle.
Might not understand all the claimed benefits
Though in my point of view, I would assume remanufacturing/recycling uses less environmentally harmful elements, while re-using some materials that are in limited supply will make less of an impact on the planet - Trees...etc...yes they're sustainable, but more-so this way.

I don't think that anyone's forced to...but yeah it seems like your pickup guys are trying to promote it, probably more about their image though.
A lot of companies love to go on about how green they are.

[_____V_____]

Dont know what kind of laws you have up there, but I know this - anything forced cannot be good, however beneficial they say it is.

Being in one of the most-polluted countries myself, people here give two-shits about recycling. Most of the big cities have huge garbage dumps full of plastic and paper on their outskirts, while big banners inside them advertise cleanliness, being green, and recycling. Hypocritical much?

Nothing comes free, either. You buy the same recycled paper or plastic again. Maybe saving some corporate bigwig plenty of money but not the general paying public, who pay, pay and pay again.

And don't get me started on the "Save The Planet" bullshit. The next environmentalist or Greenpeace guy who says that better be ready to lose some of his teeth in the very next second of his uttering those words.

[missmacabre]

i think the main thing we can do is stop making waste. There is already so much garbage and plastic created for packaging. No matter how little space it takes up, it is a waste of space and the emissions created to melt down the plastic that does get recycled is rediculous. They should stop forcing recycling and start forcing the use of green bins. Companies are using more and more bio-degradable packaging and I think it sould be manditory. Enough of those plastic coated paper coffee cups. If you want your coffee to go, bring a thermos to Tim Hortons. (You get your coffee a few cents cheaper that way anyway, even more money saved if you make your morning coffee at home.)

Things like this aren't manditory yet, but I think the time is quickly approaching. In the meantime people need to start doing what they can, and use cloth grocery bags, reusable mugs etc.

[Ferox13]

There was a huge scandle here a year or so ago when it was leaked that huge amounts of our already sorted rubbish to be recycled was ending up in Land Fills in Spain.

Though I take waht they say with a pinch of salt the PENN & TELLER BULLSHIT episode on this subject was interesting..

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by missmacabre

i think the main thing we can do is stop making waste. There is already so much garbage and plastic created for packaging. No matter how little space it takes up, it is a waste of space and the emissions created to melt down the plastic that does get recycled is rediculous. They should stop forcing recycling and start forcing the use of green bins. Companies are using more and more bio-degradable packaging and I think it sould be manditory. Enough of those plastic coated paper coffee cups. If you want your coffee to go, bring a thermos to Tim Hortons. (You get your coffee a few cents cheaper that way anyway, even more money saved if you make your morning coffee at home.)

Things like this aren't manditory yet, but I think the time is quickly approaching. In the meantime people need to start doing what they can, and use cloth grocery bags, reusable mugs etc.

I agree with you 100%.

[urgeok2]

i do believe in recycling ...

living in a city the size of toronto - seeing them struggle to find places that will accept the trash (for money) is pretty sad.


my neighbourhood just went through a test for the last few months where we had to use transparent bags for garbage.

metal and recyclable plastics went in one bin, paper and cardboard went in another - and food garbage/kleenex/animal litter went into a green bin.

whatever was left went into the clear bags.

yeah it took more time and was a pain in the ass to do but i found that the more care we took to seperate these things, the very little 'true garbage' there was left.

i dont think we're doing it to save money - we're doing it to be better global citizens. when we see what the 'real garbage' is - i think you'll see the government and businesses finding ways to reduce that even more.

its not perfect yet - but its a big important first step.


dinosaurs - big giant fuckers who's every day existence was an eat or be eaten fight for survival lived on this planet for about 250 million years and left it pretty much the way they found it.

for a teeny fraction of that time humans have turned it into a garbage dump that gets worse every second. I'm all for being part of the solution.

[scouse mac]

Recycling is a extremely easy here. The council provide two bins, one for landfill waste and the other for recycle which includes all types of tins, plastics, paper and glass. They provide a list of things that cant be recycled but its very easy to follow.

One week they collect the landfill stuff and the second week they collect the recycle stuff. As its so easy there's no excuse for not recycling here and those that dont should be forced to live in the shit they help create.