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Old 04-19-2004, 10:20 PM
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but you need corps around for you to live....if not then you would be growing food in your back yards again....want that?? and then you would have no bars or hospitals....so i guess we are living in the 1702 again?
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:23 PM
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hehe yeh

mtv, starbucks and WALMART are not the only corps

people never think about damn vegetables and fr uits!!


damnit!!

and cars too! i doubt anyone would want to give up their cars... or their computers! lol
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:24 PM
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Agreed, fluffo. It does do some really positive things, ill admit that. There is SOME good in corporations, and to do away with them ALL would be stupid as shit, as they do provide many of the things we need/take for granted.

But what we DONT need is lobbiest in CONGRESS to cut these companies breaks, paying congress members to sign laws that help them, AND the super rich in this country. Let's face it, this country has been skewered towards the rich for SOME time, and the more it goes on, the more crooked and corrupt the entire system becomes.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:25 PM
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and cars too! i doubt anyone would want to give up their cars... or their computers! lol
Especially Americans, lol. For god sakes, there are millions of kids around the world starving to death, dieing of mother-infant passed aids, disease, hunger. But us go without are HUGE Gass-guzzling SUV's, popostrous!!!
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:26 PM
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gov't is crooked and fucked up but ya know what? what can we do about it...? nothing cause they would laugh at us and arrest us so fuck it i say thats JMO
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lol arioch, you have no idea

well i hate bringin in the phillipines, but its where i was born and all i got.

see right now they have a good ass president. a woman at that. anyway, what happened before was the previous president was a movie star. of course, noone there can read and all they know is movies so he got in. LOTS of write offs, he'd spend the tax payers money gambling, take gifts from his corporate friends and fly first class all over the world, hookers, the works. while the people continued living on the streets, jobless, ignorant. however, somebody finally got the smarts and they impeached him, bringing her in

well.. next election is coming up (ttrying to be all democratic and shit like us), she is running again butwell.... lets just say the first dude was ben affleck and this next one is sean connery. as in, a BIG ALLMIGHTY dude. its VERy depressing, becuase of course all the uneducated people are gonna vote for him and theyr e gonna be fucked again.

so yes we do have issues but LOL just when u think we've completely fucked up well take a look around! u should be thankful

all i remember is sitting in my big ass house with the marble floors and court yard with fish pond. id look across the street (like 5 feet away, it wasnt really a street i guess) and there was a woman in a house no higher than your waist. the floor was dirt, she slept on a towel and her door was a piece of plywood. well the whole house was plywood. she had 2 kids. now picture that...
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:32 PM
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gov't is crooked and fucked up but ya know what? what can we do about it...? nothing cause they would laugh at us and arrest us so fuck it i say thats JMO
lol gore, this is the US, not afghanistan (or iraq.. i dont know which one anymore) you so much as turn on a radio with 'western' music and your pretty much dead

here, unless you make it violent, you wont get arrested. didnt they teach u that in civics? lol
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:34 PM
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You can change government is what you can do, Politicians number one fear is they will loose their voters.

THERE IS NO GOOD IN CORPERATIONS, you can have eveything a business does and have it not be in a corperation or big business. Chevrolet wasn't always part of GM, it was absoarbed into it. Regular business can do anything a corperation can do, and benefit the customer while doing it, more competeition equates to lower prices and better product. If all are absoarbed into one company there is no reason to lower prices, or improve your product...example.....MICROSOFT...what reason do they have to improve their product...NONE, they can improve it or not and were stuck with it ( at least the vast majority) because there is no readily available alternative. Had Apple become a majoy player in the PC market I can GARUNTEE you that Windows would be 200% better/faster/more effeciant and less taxing to a computer, and bee 100 bucks cheaper at it.

In the 1940's Tucker tried to challenge the Big Three US automakers with his new design of a car that featured seat belts and shatter proof glass....IN THE 40'S. He went under because the Big three baught up all the steel in detroit and he couldn't make any cars.

You can have a good economy without corperations, They serve no purpose to make money off of other people and themselves.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:36 PM
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lol gore, this is the US, not afghanistan (or iraq.. i dont know which one anymore) you so much as turn on a radio with 'western' music and your pretty much dead

here, unless you make it violent, you wont get arrested. didnt they teach u that in civics? lol
yes i did learn all of that but look at Howard Stern he said he didnt like Bush and he is now off of the air in a million places....you gotta wait what you say about the prez and gov't or you will be missing and not be found IMO lol
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:39 PM
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LOL on that last post Fluff, shes right about that Gore, if you really cared, you can do just about anything you WANT to make your point driven home, its supposed to be the Land of the Free remember?

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You had to add that in there didnt ya?;)

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all i remember is sitting in my big ass house with the marble floors and court yard with fish pond. id look across the street (like 5 feet away, it wasnt really a street i guess) and there was a woman in a house no higher than your waist. the floor was dirt, she slept on a towel and her door was a piece of plywood. well the whole house was plywood. she had 2 kids. now picture that...
Dont you think that in and off itself illustrates the difference in wealth and power america has to the rest of the world, and the way we are completely ignorant to the rest of the worlds needs, while being sooooo concerned with whats on "Must See TV" and who survived "The Aprentice". I just think Americans are completely turned off to anything unplesant that enters their security bubble.

In the words of Eddie Izzard, talkin to america "Do....Do you even know there are other countries?":p
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